"Wayne", the excavator extraordinaire from Anjali's trapped-aliens-in-a-mountain story, has stepped forward to speak out. He is one of four witnesses to Anjali's experience whom she claims excavated a tunnel to an alien base and took her there to meet the aliens on January 21, 2018.
However, Wayne's account of events boils down to something quite different: Anjali got high, her daughter called for a wellness check, and a friend drove her home because she was not sober. How disappointing.
Wayne appeared on Truthseekers with Steven Cambian on March 12:
Fresh off of her extraordinary Brooklyn UFO sighting, which was some sort of sign from her beautiful beings, Anjali appeared on the same show the next day. Things got off to a bad start and went downhill, and the interview only lasted a few minutes.
On Saturday, Wayne of No Tunnels No Aliens fame will appear on Steven Cambian's Truthseekers podcast. I've written a few more Twitter threads on the case this week, following from the three major ones I wrote earlier:
EDIT Mar 10: Finally! Wayne & Trisha's "shed" and "tunnel" as described by Anjali and as photographed by them.
This is the blog form of this Twitter thread, a pre-emptive defense against Anjali's various and wrong claims. Yes, I was wrong, too, but I corrected my mistake and also I'm not sending legalese emails from myself not my lawyer, threatening to sue for libel and adding plaintiffs without asking them first. (Sound familiar?)
Based on Anjali’s messages to me and others, she has some serious misperceptions about things I’ve said. I will address them so she can save herself some filing fees. I will charitably call this a case of “mistaken identity”.
Anjali’s accusations (some are libelous, she sez):
I wrote here about some earlier errors Anjali made regarding the creation and purpose of my social media accounts. The remaining accusations she’s made were in correspondence with Wayne & Trisha (2/27/22), and emails to me.
ANJALI SEZ: that I claim she’s lying about her experience.
She is WRONG.
I’ve always said I think she believes her own story about meeting aliens in a tunnel that Wayne dug. (See also this thread.)
I've maintained this view until the present: "For the most part I've taken her at her word re. her experience, and while there are people who think she's lying about everything, I've always stated I don't think that's the case." [Twitter]
Yes, I’ve said Anjali was not transparent, and was “lying for Jesus” (i.e. for a higher good), about the expedition and about Wayne. She has admitted to it:
ANJALI SEZ: “This anonymous account is also the one who suggested that… you drugged me, led me into a cave and took sexual advantage of me, and filmed it all.”
She is WRONG.
I never thought Wayne assaulted Anjali, never said it. Anjali is ascribing to me a bunch of things that other people have speculated. She is muddled, and/or others are feeding her crappy information.
From Discord Aug-Oct 2021:
I wasn’t on Discord during that initial speculation about assault. When it resurfaced in September, I ignored it.
In November, after Anjali said she’d read online speculation about assault, I said: nope.
Being drugged against her will? I said: nope.
ANJALI SEZ: “Charlie deleted many of her nasty love tunnel tweets that contained the references to drugging me, taking advantage of me in a tunnel, filming it. She absolutely tweeted that and it was reported by multiple people.”
She is WRONG.
Well, I don’t know if Anjali is wrong about what dumbasses may be reporting, but I did not delete any tweets about Wayne’s nefarious tunnel activities because I never wrote any.
(I don’t recall saying “love tunnel” - if I did it would’ve been in relation to Lavvy’s tender love.)
I searched my Twitter archive (downloaded Nov 20) for tweets deleted since that day. Any references to drugs are consensual. Nothing about assault.
Because I’m not a dumbass, I don’t hold (or tweet) diametrically opposing viewpoints at the same time.
ANJALI SEZ: that I am "the one who has suggested that someone paid you [Wayne] to cancel the expedition”
Nope. Never said it, never thought it. Maybe someone somewhere did. Can’t be bothered to look up the evidence for this bullshit.
Didn't happen. Don’t care.
ANJALI SEZ: that I claimed she & Wayne “meditated together and tripped on DMT”
Yeah loads of us speculated her mind was in an altered state.
Turns out, we were right.
ANJALI SEZ: “She worked with that porn producer Ryan Gordon to find 'Wayne' and she shared information with him”
Nope. I have not spoken with him since July. Have never spoken to him about Anjali. Did not share with him any information about Wayne. (Scott Browne can confirm.)
ANJALI SEZ: “She also doesn't think you have cancer”
Nope. More bullshit. Never thought it, never said it.
Someone doesn’t know the difference between Charlie Wiser and “random internet person saying other shit”.
Three important Twitter threads updating you on Anjali's case:
1/ There are two Waynes after all. The Wayne we found, and believed Anjali had confirmed as the real Wayne, is not.
2/ I spoke with absolutely definitely real Wayne to get his side of the story. He reached out to me after Anjali sent me a legal letter that erroneously implied he was also going to sue me.
3/ Anjali's memory of the day's timeline is completely screwed up. The confirmed ambulance call is the only piece of hard evidence Anjali has for her story. But it also confirms something else - that her memory of that day is extremely confused.
For the three main cases covered on this site, I've added links to my relevant Twitter threads that cover aspects of each case in summary form.
The tweets are linked as bulleted lists from the main page for each case:
My pinned tweet lists a few additional threads, including for these cases:
In May someone on Twitter told me about an alien abduction case where two guys on different continents woke up wearing each other’s shirts. Then he mentioned Travis Walton, who I'd never heard of, and I read some stuff and made this site.
Since then I've looked into a handful of cases that interested me, bitten the heads off a few people who think they know better than me what I should be interested in, and written some Twitter threads. This is a retrospective from my point of view of the past 8 months, itemizing some things I've learned.
Happy new year. May all your dreams come true, and, if you chase the truth, all your beliefs be shattered.
The name Skinny Bob kept coming up on Twitter. Every time I googled the name, I ended up at YouTube videos depicting alien creature sightings with titles like: "This looks like Skinny Bob."
But who was Skinny Bob?
I figured the name was a generic term for emaciated Grey aliens, taken from American pop culture perhaps. When I was finally directed to the correct videos, I realized I'd seen the footage a while back but evidently not paid much attention. "Skinny Bob" is the name given to the alien by the video uploader. Despite being anonymously in possession of this earth-shattering footage courtesy of the KGB, Ivan0135 had no qualms about giving his details to YouTube - the videos are monetized.
This case interests me for two reasons - the passion with which fans of Skinny Bob support his reality, and my personal (admittedly limited) interest in animation. I've written an ongoing thread on Twitter looking at the 37 seconds (from a total of 5 minutes across 4 videos) that show Skinny Bob alive and moving. My conclusions, that he is a modified Mars Attacks stock motion puppet, come from work done on Reddit last year mostly by two users, BrooklynRobot and RedDwarfBee.
I did some further research on the puppets to understand how they were built and used. (In the end, Tim Burton's Mars Attacks movie used CGI based on the puppets, not stop motion animation.) Comparisons between the puppet and Skinny Bob only convinced me further. Some of the similarities:
Additionally, it looks like the Skinny Bob footage was shot in such a way as to hide any shortcomings of the animation:
There's lots more information on my Twitter thread - including speculation about where the Skinny Bob footage may have been shot - and I'll update that as new information comes in. I've also started a discussion at r/SkinnyBob on Reddit.
Why would anyone modify an expensive puppet, make an animation, and then compile it with UFO footage, slap on some filters, and upload it to YouTube with a narrative about a crashed saucer in Russia? I can't say, but if I had the skills and equipment to do it for fun... I just might.
As of November 2nd, Anjali's expedition to bring back irrefutable evidence of the existence of physical ETs inside a physical base inside Wayne's mountain is "postponed". On Aliengirl111's podcast, Anjali said that when she visited Wayne in California at the end of October he revoked all access to his property.
There are two ways of viewing this story. Either we take Anjali at her word - which leaves us puzzling over the inconsistencies (not to mention Wayne's improbable naivety) - or we speculate on the assumption she's not always truthful and transparent. Which approach gives us a more accurate interpretation of what's really going on? And what happens next?
Unless Wayne speaks up with the truth, we'll never know what really happened that day in January 2018 when he met Angelia Schultz in a coffeeshop. Maybe for his own amusement he tricked her into believing he met aliens on top of his mountain and was compelled to dig a tunnel to their base. Maybe she misunderstood or misremembered his jokes about aliens. Maybe she had an experience on drugs that she later wrongly interpreted as physical aliens in a physical tunnel.
Given her manner and conviction, my impression was that Anjali believed her story when she first told it in March. But even then, things didn't add up:
At the end of July she said they'd reconnected due to a death, but on the Aliengirl111 podcast she described how she was "panic-contacting Wayne and Trisha because I [felt] nearly compelled to announce a formation of an expedition team to return to the base." Whatever compulsion she felt, the fact is this recount obscures the fact that she announced the expedition before she had heard from the property owners.
Anjali (and her partner Max) said they were on board, involved, excited, and ready:
"I've also found it absolutely fascinating how onboard Wayne and Trisha truly are." [Max on Reddit, Aug 17, 2021]
"he’s very much involved in this process... he's gonna be standing right up front beside me. So we're very excited about this whole process. They’re ready. They are ready when the beings are ready and when the team is ready." [Anjali on Jimmy Church, Aug 25, 2021]
Two months later we're told Wayne decided he would not allow anyone onto his property because he saw the negative attention another man was getting for either being mistaken for Wayne or pretending to be Wayne. He and Trisha didn't want "their private lives being threatened by... freaks" - despite being absolutely fine with their privacy being destroyed forever once evidence of Wayne's historic discovery was brought forth. Contradicting everything she'd said before about Wayne and Trisha's readiness, Anjali said the situation was "always so fragile", and that they were "very hesitant about anyone wanting on their property in the first place". [Anjali on Aliengirl111, Nov 2, 2021]
The next day she discarded the previous explanation and tweeted that Wayne revoked permission because of his health, which the day before she'd mentioned only as an aside: "by the way, Wayne, his cancer has worsened..."
Being sick or publicity-shy aren't plausible reasons to doom humanity to exile in Orion. Wayne's behavior, by Anjali's account, has been inexplicable. But that is what we're supposed to believe.
There's no evidence Wayne is a real person, although it seems likely he is. Without evidence, he's a character in Anjali's narrative and anonymous if real. She says he wants "nothing to do with it".
Reading between the lines, it looks like he never wanted anything to do with it.
If he's a reasonable man, he knows there are no aliens in his mountain eager to softly disclose themselves. If there were, they wouldn't be stopped by one man changing his mind due to privacy or health or anything else. Wayne was never going to retain his privacy; and he could avoid the stress of the expedition by taking a vacation that weekend.
Did he tell Anjali, or did he feed her fantasy? I can only hope he did tell her the truth - even if not in 2018, surely in 2021 when he discovered she'd placed him in a co-starring role.
Either she didn't believe him, or she did and ever since then has been trying to save face.
So, there are no reasons for Wayne "revoking" permission since we have no evidence he'd never granted it. Anjali says she wasn't in touch with him during her flurry of online activity in the first half of 2021 so he didn't expect people coming to his land looking for non-existent tunnels or thinking he believes in aliens. Now he seems to want it all to go away.
But Anjali won't go away: "You can’t invite a former Pentagon Defense Intelligence agent to your home and take them to meet extraterrestrials in a tunnel, and then expect they’re going to go away. That’s not going to happen." [Anjali on Aliengirl111, Nov 2, 2021]
There's no evidence Anjali devoted every waking hour, as she claims, to organizing an expedition or that she was gathering "one of the most scientifically-esteemed teams ever assembled". She can't even talk intelligently about the "equipment to measure" that would be taken into the tunnel. This unnecessarily complicated expedition was doomed to fail and many predicted it would.
She's been avoiding questions about her relationship with him (specifically, if he ever gave permission for access to his property for the purpose of meeting aliens). Her Nov 2 tweet where she says "My intentions are to press forward" with the expedition is not believable to me.
Anjali revealed this fresh twist on the message six days ago, in a series of apparently coordinated tweets that put in doubt her assertion that higher beings were the source of the information. Other than to change her profile pic and answer a question about why she follows zero people, she has not returned to address the fear or ridicule left in her wake, and nor has she posted a more comprehensive explanation on Reddit or YouTube - either of which would be more appropriate platforms.
We have only five years to learn how to upload information-rich metadata into each other's brains - a skill not one human on the planet has ever mastered. Soft disclosure was supposed to result in the beings helping us prepare for this. For some reason, soft disclosure can only take place in Wayne's mountain, and he's not interested.
Don't be surprised if Anjali stops talking about the expedition. Obviously it can never happen.
Don't be surprised if Anjali opens a meditation center in her sacred geometry home, for the purpose of teaching conscious communication with higher beings while never mentioning conscious communication between humans again.
Anjali keeps saying that fear prevents transcendence. Of course the Earth is not going to be wiped clean by the Sun in 2027, so there's nothing to fear there. Judging from Twitter, however, plenty of people do believe something like this will happen around that time. Anjali has a ready-made audience. Don't be surprised to see her feeding their fears and gathering a flock. When disclosure, transcendence, and the apocalypse fail to eventuate these are the ones who'll believe whatever new excuse she gives and dig themselves in ever deeper.
Anjali was once an earnest experiencer with poor perception, no curiosity, delusions of grandeur, and an inflated sense of her own infallibility. As the obfuscations and evasions pile up, the word fraud seems more applicable.
My perspective on the developments in the Anjali story this past week (on Reddit).
While Travis Walton's abduction tale aboard a flying saucer is beat-for-beat almost identical to a couple of Heinlein stories, a few details seem to have been drawn from other science fiction sources of the era.
Curt Collins posted a 1967 comic on UFO UpDates with aliens and their "surgery" that bear similarities to Travis's alleged experience. Then there's Captain Kirk's command chair, Dr McCoy's medical equipment, and the 2001: A Space Odyssey cockpit screens and buttons...
Not to disparage classic science fiction, which at the time looked futuristic, but I'd be so disappointed if a real alien spaceship looked like it came from the imaginations of 1960s Hollywood writers.
Read my update with illustrations and quotes from Travis's book.