Anjali's fantasy collab with Brandon Fugal

I've exposed countless lies that Anjali (Angelia Schultz) has been telling since 2021, including lies to the property owners where she had her experience in 2018, lies to the public, and lies about me. I became aware of the following bizarre lie in early 2024. When I exposed it, Anjali called me the liar and later absolved herself of responsibility for the lie by saying... she forgot telling it.

Let's dive in.

The text screenshots reproduced here are the entirety of a conversation Anjali had with Bryan (property owner) in August to September 2023.

A brief history

Anjali visits a property in the Mojave high desert in 2018, then in March 2021 writes a post on Reddit saying the property owner Bryan took her to meet aliens in a tunnel that day. She holds a press conference in August announcing an expedition to the property to bring back "irrefutable evidence" of these aliens, although she does not have permission from the owners. Their relationship deteriorates and she "postpones" the expedition in November. A few days later she announces the end of the world in an apocalypse, due in 2027.

In February 2022 the property owners contact me to explain their side of the story: that day in 2018, they invited Anjali home to chill after taking Rick Simpson oil (RSO, which Bryan used as part of his healing). Anjali was very stoned and acting so bizarrely that after communicating with her concerned daughter, the daughter sent an ambulance to the address for a welfare check.

​Bryan told Anjali in 2021, and tells me in 2022, that he has never dug such a tunnel and does not have the skills or money to do so. He denies telling Anjali he would take her to meet aliens in that non-existent tunnel. The first they knew of her story is during a videocall the day before her presser, where Anjali tells him he certainly did dug a tunnel, he does have aliens on his property, and it's time for him to remember.

Mormon madness

Anjali reconnects with the property owners on Aug 15, 2023. She has the offer of a lifetime to capture their interest: a "team associated with" real estate mogul Brandon Fugal is interested in their property!

Fugal is famous in ufology for his TV show about the alleged paranormal events at Skinwalker Ranch, which he had purchased from aerospace tycoon Robert Bigelow in 2016.

The team Anjali is referring to is Fugal's spin-off show, Beyond Skinwalker Ranch, executive produced by David Carr.  When I told Fugal about Anjali's claims and suggested she had misrepresented David's interest to the property owners, he replied:

"Crazy. I can see David merely conducting due diligence and investigating what may be worth looking into - NOT knowing or understanding the history or personalities."

It would seem Anjali's claim about the team sending her "links and passwords... unavailable to the public" simply refers to a standard response the producers give when the public contacts them about places they might want to investigate for the show.

Anjali has a very specific interest in returning to the property and taking RSO again (which she finally achieved in May 2024). I call bullshit on her claim that "they are very sensitive to your position". I call bullshit on her having had any substantial personalized communication with the producers of the show.

​And what communication she may have had, she lied about.

Bryan graciously matches her conciliatory tone and asks whether Fugal's team is interested in filming or purchasing (at the time, he was looking to sell the property).

Anjali replies that the team is interested making an evidence-based filmed investigation. And she makes the outrageous claim that this team associated with Fugal are "willing to ingest substances to reach the beings."

(Fugal is a Mormon. Mormons are forbidden from taking drugs including coffee, alcohol, tobacco, and of course cannabis. This makes Anjali's claim ridiculous on the face of it.)

When I put this to Fugal (including the name "David" which Anjali includes in a later text) in May 2024, he said:

"I appreciate you bringing this to my attention, especially as I would have NOTHING to do with this kind of behavior. David Carr is one of the producers of Beyond Skinwalker and has always operated with professionalism and knows I am very sensitive regarding the integrity of our investigation into these topics."

Fugal even sent me his personal phone number, apparently eager to clear things up in person. (I did not call and I think his TV shows are entertainment masquerading as science, and that Mormonism is a controlling patriarchal cult, but that's not relevant here.)

Back to the texts from August 2023. Anjali assures Bryan that she's been honest with them, which is itself a lie - and she will continue to lie to them over the next few weeks.

Given Bryan's question about whether Fugal's team was interested in purchasing the land, Anjali drops another carrot - reminding them that he's super-rich: "Brandon bought Skinwalker ranch. Millions."

Flashback to 2021

This echoes Anjali's manipulations from 2021, when she tried to make the couple believe that Bigelow Aerospace was interested in purchasing their property. She would name the company as the "interested party" and roped Whitley Strieber into being a liaison for the purchase. (Strieber later denied this.) After Bryan jokingly told her he wanted $10mil (half in cash) for the property, hoping to get rid of her, she told them:

"I do think it is possible to get that much for your property, and possibly more, honestly, given what is inside your mountain. If I remember correctly, Skinwalker Ranch was sold for $2.4m a few years ago."

This was a ruse to get herself back on the property disguised as the necessity to gather evidence to convince a rich buyer. "I will grind myself into the ground to find a buyer for your property", she told them. After getting no response for two weeks (because it was a joke!) she wrote on Oct 16: "Please give me a call. I have really good news!"

And sent them a link to Bigelow Aerospace's website. The clear intent here was to make them believe she had "news" that Bigelow was actively interested.

​After a phone call, Bryan wrote on Oct 20 that nobody could come to the property:

"After talking more with our attorney, It is more complicated than we thought. The liability alone is risky. The rest of what we’re hearing is a whole lot of stress we cannot handle at this time.
No one is allowed on our land! We are need quiet space and time to do what I’m facing. By the looks of things, you can use some rest yourself. 
Thank you for your understanding. We wish you the best on your alien journey!"

Anjali turned on the pressure, even blaming the beings:

"I did drive 1600 miles to see you, though, and it is the only reason I am even here in California. So I have to continue to try, as the beings have insisted... No decent lawyer would ever tell their client not to verify if their property could be actually be worth $10-20 million more than they currently think it is - especially when it’s free of charge to do so. If your lawyer doesn’t want a chunk of the millions, then you need to find a new lawyer."

Desperate for some peace after weeks-long harassment campaign, Bryan's wife wrote:  "We are trying to live our lives peacefully and this has done nothing but cause us emotional distress and severe anxiety. You are making it so much harder to get through this time. If you are truly the kind loving person you say you are, then you will respect this."

It would take Anjali two weeks to publicly announce the expedition was "postponed".

So, Anjali's lies at that time:

• She told them Bigelow was interested in buying their property, perhaps for even more than $10mil. False.
• She told them Strieber would broker the purchase. False.

And her ploy was repeated in 2023:

• A team associated with Fugal (he's rich!) was interested in investigating their property. False.
• The team were willing to take drugs. False. And defamatory.

Anjali cuts her losses... for now

In a Twitter Space in Feb 2025, Anjali said the reason the expedition fell through was "because Wayne [Bryan] was asking for an exorbitant amount of money from me."

Anjali has given various reasons for why the expedition didn't happen, but this one in particular is absolutely false. Bryan never asked her for any money. He jokingly set a price of $10mil for someone to purchase the property (not as a payment from Anjali) and he did not follow up on it. Because it was a joke.

This cycle repeated in 2023: After presenting the lure, Anjali wrote two days later to see if Bryan had looked at the links she sent (about the Beyond Skinwalker Ranch show, and note that she names the producer David and calls him "interested").

Bryan then asked for a $10K fee to film for one day. Whether or not Anjali passed along this message, she did not respond until more than 3 weeks later to say she hadn't heard from the team.

You can see from Bryan's response that he did not care.

Then Anjali tells them to watch for Oct 15. She doesn't tell them why. Given the circumstances and their history, this is pure emotionally manipulation designed to make them worry.

Finally, a lavender love heart to make you puke.

Compounding the lies

This episode of lies and attempted manipulation doesn't end there. When I learned about these texts, I wrote to Paul Beban (a presenter on the show) who suggested I write to Fugal. I DM'ed Fugal on Twitter on  May 1 but he didn't respond until May 22, as he was traveling. In the end he saw my public tweets before the DMs.

I tweeted about Anjali's texts on  May 12 because it seemed ridiculous to me that anyone associated with Brandon Fugal would tell some random lady that they'd take drugs in the course of their investigations for the show.

Fugal of course said it was false.

My first tweet about Anjali's outrageous claim to the property owners, and Fugal's reply (before he saw my DMs)

Did Anjali explain her lie about the team associated with Fugal being willing to ingest substances? Of course not. She called me a liar and denied all knowledge of contact with Fugal's team.

In this first tweet, she asserts I went through her contacts (this is false and irrelevant) and deflects to talk about her podcast producers - people who have nothing to do with her Aug 2023​ texts to Bryan that Fugal's team was interested in investigating their property:

Next, Anjali tells Paul Beban she has no idea who he is. Yet she'd told Bryan the Beyond Skinwalker Ranch team wanted to visit and they'd given her access to secret videos... Paul is a presenter on that show! It's bizarre that she now claims she's not familiar with the show:

This third tweet is in response to Fugal's confusion. A week later he saw my earlier DM and we corresponded there. He characterized her claim as "crazy".

Six weeks later, Anjali replied to a tweet of mine with an attempted explanation: she simply forgot she'd written those texts (those lies) to Bryan 9 months earlier. (Note that her texts to the couple are their property and they have every right to share them with me - and I have every right to publicize them in order to expose her lies and manipulations.)

Yes, Anjali's excuse for lying to Bryan and defaming Fugal's team is that a few months later she would forget she wrote it. No attempt to explain why she lied in the first place. She forgot she lied, therefore she did not lie.

Anjali continued with yet another weird deflection, by again bringing up her podcast producers who have nothing to do with this incident. I don't know who she means by saying I suggested "several reputable producers" but the only producers involved in this story were "David" and Fugal, both of whom she inserted by name into her fantasy, not me. (The other name I used around that time, in relation to her podcast - Josh - was indeed the name of her podcast producer.)

Anjali has been telling hideous lies about me since Feb 2022, threatened twice to sue me (including lying about me to try and manipulate others to join the lawsuit), explained her plan to dox me, and is now supposedly pressing charges against me. All because I've been researching and debunking her silly story and exposing her subsequent lies and manipulations. Instead of admitting to her lies about me and others, showing the slightest degree of self-reflection for those lies, or offering a scrap of evidence, she doubles and triples down and claims she is "honest".

So, I'm not really inclined to "move on".