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THIRDENNY Mini blog |
Each third-density mini-blog below is based on a Twitter thread analyzing a different aspect of Anjali's story. The date indicates when I tweeted it (oldest at the top). These are a mixture of opinion and fact, with evidence where required. The blog is split into parts:
Thirdenny 2021
Thirdenny 2022 (you are here)
Thirdenny 2023
In some places I have added notes with hindsight, especially where we learned that Anjali was obfuscating about what was happening behind the scenes. I spoke to the "Wayne and Trisha" of her story in late-Feb 2022. They sent me all their correspondence with Anjali, and she released it publicly (along with audio of their Aug 16, 2021 Zoom call) on Mar 20, 2022.
Thirdenny 2021
Thirdenny 2022 (you are here)
Thirdenny 2023
In some places I have added notes with hindsight, especially where we learned that Anjali was obfuscating about what was happening behind the scenes. I spoke to the "Wayne and Trisha" of her story in late-Feb 2022. They sent me all their correspondence with Anjali, and she released it publicly (along with audio of their Aug 16, 2021 Zoom call) on Mar 20, 2022.
Whitley Strieber weighs in (Jan 22, 2022)
Anjali was interviewed on Whitley Strieber's Dreamland podcast. The last half-hour, where he gives his interpretation of what happened, is behind a paywall because that’s how the granddaddy of close encounters performs service to others. Anjali later released it on her own channel (see below). [Transcript]
[Note: Because I took Anjali at her word that she'd taken no drugs, my interpretation of her experience was that her altered state of mind was the result of a guided meditation.]
Anjali talks about her career, illness, seeing an owl and wolf as a child because that means something. She reveals recovered memories from her hypnoregression: no one escapes Barbara Lamb without discovering they are a hybrid, so Anjali is now a hybrid.
[Note: Because I took Anjali at her word that she'd taken no drugs, my interpretation of her experience was that her altered state of mind was the result of a guided meditation.]
Anjali talks about her career, illness, seeing an owl and wolf as a child because that means something. She reveals recovered memories from her hypnoregression: no one escapes Barbara Lamb without discovering they are a hybrid, so Anjali is now a hybrid.
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Anjali was taken aboard a craft at age 4 to meet two dozen hybrid siblings, created from her mom’s eggs. All failures because they couldn’t pass for human. She’s the successful hybrid who could pass for human so I guess she was put back in mom’s uterus.
Strieber’s interpretation has something to do with this happened but not “in the real world that we understand” and I’m not paying to find out what he means. Anjali says it could be another dimension. Ockham’s razor and memory experts would say it happened in her imagination. |
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Anjali talked about her health crisis and rehab, an identity crisis, wondering “what gifts do I have”, coming to terms with no career and a “broken body”; a spiritual search open to “anything and everything”...
Culminating in a visit from ET with a message on how to save humanity.
Culminating in a visit from ET with a message on how to save humanity.
Anjali at her "press conference" outside the Lincoln Memorial, DC, on Aug 17, 2021, where she told her story of meeting ET in a mountain base and announced she would form a team to return with evidence.
Enter: Wayne, who tells Anjali she needs to release the burden of negative energy from her body (acquired during her career). He has aliens for that.
Does this sound like a precursor to a guided meditation session or what?
As we know, things soured when fakeWayne was located and the beings would rather let realWayne use his freewill to abruptly change his mind about becoming famous, than softly disclose themselves in time to save humanity from the 2027 apocalypse.
Anjali was already hallucinating on the walk to the tunnel:
Grabs her head: “What the f is going on?”
Wayne’s bud: “She’s there now, she’s seeing it.”
“Seeing what?”
“You’ll see, let’s just keep going.”
A guided meditation under Wayne’s magic arch is the rational explanation.
Does this sound like a precursor to a guided meditation session or what?
As we know, things soured when fakeWayne was located and the beings would rather let realWayne use his freewill to abruptly change his mind about becoming famous, than softly disclose themselves in time to save humanity from the 2027 apocalypse.
Anjali was already hallucinating on the walk to the tunnel:
Grabs her head: “What the f is going on?”
Wayne’s bud: “She’s there now, she’s seeing it.”
“Seeing what?”
“You’ll see, let’s just keep going.”
A guided meditation under Wayne’s magic arch is the rational explanation.
The last half-hour of Whitley Strieber's interview with Anjali this week is for subscribers only, but the listener comments on his website here give clues on what he said to explain her experience:
It looks like Whitley told Anjali that the beings were using her as a pawn (as, he claims, they have used him). This is despite her absolute certainty over the past year that her ETs are loving and good.
However, it's also clear Whitley doesn't know her story too well - he thinks she only met Greys, whereas she's described at least 5 races. He doesn't even seem to know about Lavvy?? This is offensive.
[Note: This becomes even more offensive when we learn that Anjali had told the land owners that Strieber would liaise with them with Bigelow in the purchase of their land+alien base. Are we to believe Strieber agreed to this role without asking questions about exactly what was inside that base, so he could convey the information to Bigelow? Also note that this was all more of Anjali's manipulations of the owners - Strieber denied this role and referred to it as a misunderstanding. See Mar 31, 2022, entry below.]
It looks like Whitley told Anjali that the beings were using her as a pawn (as, he claims, they have used him). This is despite her absolute certainty over the past year that her ETs are loving and good.
However, it's also clear Whitley doesn't know her story too well - he thinks she only met Greys, whereas she's described at least 5 races. He doesn't even seem to know about Lavvy?? This is offensive.
[Note: This becomes even more offensive when we learn that Anjali had told the land owners that Strieber would liaise with them with Bigelow in the purchase of their land+alien base. Are we to believe Strieber agreed to this role without asking questions about exactly what was inside that base, so he could convey the information to Bigelow? Also note that this was all more of Anjali's manipulations of the owners - Strieber denied this role and referred to it as a misunderstanding. See Mar 31, 2022, entry below.]
Whitley dismisses Anjali's (that is, her higher beings') apocalyptic predictions. If one assumes an apocalypse is on the way, his reasoning is surprisingly logical. (Big if, tho)
Although Whitley interjected many times with corroborating evidence and interpretations suggesting he believed Anjali as she told her story, he wrote in his comments: "I did not suggest that I believed this guest, no more than I do any other." Hedging his bets. Good ploy.
Reframing skepticism as defamation (Jan 26, 2022)
Experiencer: I know it sounds crazy but there are ETs in Wayne’s mountain.
Me: There most certainly aren’t, but here’s why you might think there are…
Experiencer: You'll be hearing from my lawyer! (If I can find you.)
Me: There most certainly aren’t, but here’s why you might think there are…
Experiencer: You'll be hearing from my lawyer! (If I can find you.)
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Anjali told a mutual correspondent she has a constitutional case against me for libel. “You may choose to deliver that message to her, or you may choose not to, and I will be at peace either way.” He chose to.
Doesn't an elevated consciousness incarnated as a starseed have less worldly more important things on her mind? Like providing irrefutable evidence of ET on Gaia leading to soft disclosure to help humanity transcend before 2027? Oh? We're not doing that anymore? Anyway… |
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Reading this - I mean, awesome for Anjali I guess, but it has nothing to do with me. I would think the person signing the affidavit is responsible for writing a truthful affidavit. Am I wrong?
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Other than a few paragraphs paraphrasing Anjali’s claims, speculation that guided meditation caused her experience, and ridiculing faith in non-existent evidence-free beings...
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Anjali said our mutual friend could choose to deliver the message to me, or not. "I will be at peace either way."
Had he chosen not to, how was I supposed to find out and do this stuff IMMEDIATELY? It was my ONLY HOPE She makes me not wanna. |
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In August I asked Anjali to feel free to send any corrections in my timeline. It's an open invitation to anyone. I want to be factual (outside parody).
On the other hand, Anjali has many non-factual ideas about me. I will correct them.
“…Twitter account that was originally established to harass me and promote a damaging website… initially dedicated to simply proving that I lied”
WRONG.
On the other hand, Anjali has many non-factual ideas about me. I will correct them.
“…Twitter account that was originally established to harass me and promote a damaging website… initially dedicated to simply proving that I lied”
WRONG.
- Account opened Dec 2020 for politics etc.
- Since May 2021 to talk about UFO cases.
- First mentioned her Aug 16, 2021.
Why is an intel agent so bad at research?
Every tweet? Really?
Every tweet? Really?
Tweets not about Anjali
“…dedicated to simply proving that I lied and made up the experience”
WRONG
My opinion has always been that the evidence shows Anjali is not lying about her experience in Wayne’s tunnel.
“Her insistence that she knows the real story is quite sad, and again, damaging.”
WRONG
I don’t know the real story. I’m speculating based on the evidence, i.e. Anjali’s words. And my sad insistence of anything is not defamation.
“She began dismantling other experiencer accounts in Tweets after I reported her”
WRONG
I’ve never received any notifications from Twitter so how would I know Anjali reported me? I was dismantling Walton & the Hills months before I’d heard of her.
I’ve added evidence (her words) to my website showing Anjali:
Here’s my favorite bit to finish with:
WRONG
My opinion has always been that the evidence shows Anjali is not lying about her experience in Wayne’s tunnel.
“Her insistence that she knows the real story is quite sad, and again, damaging.”
WRONG
I don’t know the real story. I’m speculating based on the evidence, i.e. Anjali’s words. And my sad insistence of anything is not defamation.
“She began dismantling other experiencer accounts in Tweets after I reported her”
WRONG
I’ve never received any notifications from Twitter so how would I know Anjali reported me? I was dismantling Walton & the Hills months before I’d heard of her.
I’ve added evidence (her words) to my website showing Anjali:
- invited skepticism
- admitted causing herself personal and professional harm by coming forward
- is not seeking profit and never will
- is, and wants to be, a public figure in ufology
Here’s my favorite bit to finish with:
Strieber's hot read (Feb 3, 2022)
Anjali’s last half-hour of the Feb 2 interview with Whitley Strieber in which he calls her a sucker, says her apocalypse ain’t happening, and drops keywords to make her think her experience ties into Various Grand Events. [Transcript]
From the promo for this interview: “Nobody in the world but Whitley can ask the questions he asks.”
Well, all he does is tell Anjali she was in a virtual reality sim or maybe got teleported to another dimension. That’s it. He also mentions ayahuasca - mucho verboten, Whitley!
From the promo for this interview: “Nobody in the world but Whitley can ask the questions he asks.”
Well, all he does is tell Anjali she was in a virtual reality sim or maybe got teleported to another dimension. That’s it. He also mentions ayahuasca - mucho verboten, Whitley!
Anjali always said her irrefutable evidence of physical ETs in a physical base was “soft disclosure” (even though c’mon that’s as hard as it gets).
With Whitley’s help she redefines soft disclosure to mean "going on podcasts to talk about soft disclosure."
Definitions
Hot reading: psychic gathers info about you beforehand, then pretends to divine it.
Cold reading: psychic reads your unconscious clues in real time.
Strieber isn't pretending to be psychic but he’s about to drop some hot-read “bombs”, then chuckle to see Anjali stunned…
Whitley claims that Anjali gave Dec 21, 2021, as the expedition date. This is not true. It's the opposite of what happened. But he needs to tie it to winter solstice because 69 years ago at summer solstice was the Washington flyovers which the public doesn’t know about.
[NOTE: Anjali never publicly gave a date for the expedition, and in fact said she would not be announcing a date. In a comment on the video (now apparently deleted) she said she did tell Whitley and others that her "target date" was December 21. I have confirmed with "Wayne & Trisha", owners of the land, that she never gave them any dates nor any other information about the team and the expedition.]
Anjali is stunned that somehow her thing relates to Whitley’s thing!
A person more cynical than I might see this entire diversion as an opportunity for Whitley to promote his forthcoming book informing the public about the Washington flyovers.
With Whitley’s help she redefines soft disclosure to mean "going on podcasts to talk about soft disclosure."
Definitions
Hot reading: psychic gathers info about you beforehand, then pretends to divine it.
Cold reading: psychic reads your unconscious clues in real time.
Strieber isn't pretending to be psychic but he’s about to drop some hot-read “bombs”, then chuckle to see Anjali stunned…
Whitley claims that Anjali gave Dec 21, 2021, as the expedition date. This is not true. It's the opposite of what happened. But he needs to tie it to winter solstice because 69 years ago at summer solstice was the Washington flyovers which the public doesn’t know about.
[NOTE: Anjali never publicly gave a date for the expedition, and in fact said she would not be announcing a date. In a comment on the video (now apparently deleted) she said she did tell Whitley and others that her "target date" was December 21. I have confirmed with "Wayne & Trisha", owners of the land, that she never gave them any dates nor any other information about the team and the expedition.]
Anjali is stunned that somehow her thing relates to Whitley’s thing!
A person more cynical than I might see this entire diversion as an opportunity for Whitley to promote his forthcoming book informing the public about the Washington flyovers.
This rendition of Lavvy has been affectionally dubbed "Wineglass Lavvy"
Whitley explains the higher beings are so incompetent that their attempts to communicate with Washington in 1952, himself in the 80s, and Anjali, all failed and were designed to fail.
“You were had,” he tells her. “You were used.”
Uh, what happened to Wayne deciding to cancel soft disclosure because the other Wayne got 3 phone calls?! Wayne was the only one not ready for disclosure. We were hanging out for that irrefutable evidence! Now it’s the higher beings’ fault? Lavvy used Anjali? Say it ain’t so!
Some stuff about polarity, entropy, the joy of pole dancing and there’s no such thing as evil. Hitler wasn’t bad, we just weren’t analyzing his energies objectively.
Anjali is given a few minutes to say anything:
I loved when you said entropy. Entropy is such an interesting topic, interesting concept, because it invites creative destruction. Um, in order for consciousness to have a new experience and to continue to grow and expand, it must start somewhere, y’know. So each cycle, each level, they say, of consciousness development, it is - they say it is a choice that we make to – there’s a choice that we make in order for us to have a new experience and to learn something new about ourselves and to decide, each of us, what we’re going to do with this new part um that we have discovered in this new individual expression that we are each taking on as part of the whole source. And so part of our duty here, our yes our duty to consciousness, to consciousness growth, is to separate internally within our own expressions what is useful to the whole, and what is destructive.
Whitley’s about to do his hot reading thing again: 30 years ago he got fan mail saying the planet’s axis will shift in 2027.
Anjali is stunned!! That’s the date of her apocalypse!!
Oh really? Whitley says, all innocent. [Note: The letter Strieber is referring to, from a woman who was given messages that the Earth will tip on its axis in 2029, not 2027.]
Whitley's not having one whit of Anjali’s apocalypse, by the way. In an unexpected display of common sense he says: Nah these things never come true.
So they laugh and hope 2027 will be uneventful.
Wait, she always said the end of life on Earth will be glorious! Nothing to be afraid of!
“You were had,” he tells her. “You were used.”
Uh, what happened to Wayne deciding to cancel soft disclosure because the other Wayne got 3 phone calls?! Wayne was the only one not ready for disclosure. We were hanging out for that irrefutable evidence! Now it’s the higher beings’ fault? Lavvy used Anjali? Say it ain’t so!
Some stuff about polarity, entropy, the joy of pole dancing and there’s no such thing as evil. Hitler wasn’t bad, we just weren’t analyzing his energies objectively.
Anjali is given a few minutes to say anything:
I loved when you said entropy. Entropy is such an interesting topic, interesting concept, because it invites creative destruction. Um, in order for consciousness to have a new experience and to continue to grow and expand, it must start somewhere, y’know. So each cycle, each level, they say, of consciousness development, it is - they say it is a choice that we make to – there’s a choice that we make in order for us to have a new experience and to learn something new about ourselves and to decide, each of us, what we’re going to do with this new part um that we have discovered in this new individual expression that we are each taking on as part of the whole source. And so part of our duty here, our yes our duty to consciousness, to consciousness growth, is to separate internally within our own expressions what is useful to the whole, and what is destructive.
Whitley’s about to do his hot reading thing again: 30 years ago he got fan mail saying the planet’s axis will shift in 2027.
Anjali is stunned!! That’s the date of her apocalypse!!
Oh really? Whitley says, all innocent. [Note: The letter Strieber is referring to, from a woman who was given messages that the Earth will tip on its axis in 2029, not 2027.]
Whitley's not having one whit of Anjali’s apocalypse, by the way. In an unexpected display of common sense he says: Nah these things never come true.
So they laugh and hope 2027 will be uneventful.
Wait, she always said the end of life on Earth will be glorious! Nothing to be afraid of!
Anjali, talking about her glorious apocalypse
Anjali can extol the virtues of her apocalypse till transcension comes but it doesn’t change the fact this is hardcore terrifying stuff for certain vulnerable people. (Fortunately, it’s not true. But there are people who trust her rather than me or reality on this issue.)
Time for another hot read. For literally no reason, Whitley says that pharaohs go to Orion when they die.
Even though Anjali is not a pharaoh and there are no pharaohs in her story, she is stunned because he said “Orion”!! (Too easy, thinks Whitley.)
As you know, Anjali is from Orion (and wants you to know she’s always known Orion is not a planet). (Not as far as we know, anyway.) She chose this uncomfortable task and embraces it wholly. (Whew.)
Look, those stunned reactions to Whitley’s meaningless set-ups, even though he shows his hand each time – three times – are indications that he’s dealing with a dismayingly gullible person. Which explains a hell of a lot, actually.
Let’s finish by recalling that tales grow taller in the telling…
Lavvy is now more than 8 feet tall! Shall we take bets on how tall he’ll be by the time the apocalypse gets here?
Time for another hot read. For literally no reason, Whitley says that pharaohs go to Orion when they die.
Even though Anjali is not a pharaoh and there are no pharaohs in her story, she is stunned because he said “Orion”!! (Too easy, thinks Whitley.)
As you know, Anjali is from Orion (and wants you to know she’s always known Orion is not a planet). (Not as far as we know, anyway.) She chose this uncomfortable task and embraces it wholly. (Whew.)
Look, those stunned reactions to Whitley’s meaningless set-ups, even though he shows his hand each time – three times – are indications that he’s dealing with a dismayingly gullible person. Which explains a hell of a lot, actually.
Let’s finish by recalling that tales grow taller in the telling…
Lavvy is now more than 8 feet tall! Shall we take bets on how tall he’ll be by the time the apocalypse gets here?
Love, light & lawsuits (Feb 26, 2022)
Where does love n’ light go when someone refuses to play along with its alien shit? To its lawyer! What a brilliant way to NOT want money and NOT want to concern itself in worldly affairs.
Anjali's email to me (Charlie Wiser) on Feb 23, 2022, announcing her intention to sue me for libel
One of Anjali’s friends – we’ll call him Stu and he seems earnest & honest – told me the ONLY excuse she gave him for No Teapot Expedition is my website. The REAL issue causing her relationship with Wayne to sour, she says, is that I wrote he drugged & r---- her.
If I take down that heinous accusation about Wayne, Anjali will BRING FORTH the evidence! What a dreadful thing I said about Wayne. Anjali was unable to provide a link unfortunately, and... Oh wait, I SAID THE OPPOSITE.
If I take down that heinous accusation about Wayne, Anjali will BRING FORTH the evidence! What a dreadful thing I said about Wayne. Anjali was unable to provide a link unfortunately, and... Oh wait, I SAID THE OPPOSITE.
My posts on Discord (16 Sep, 2021) and Twitter (Nov 3&4, 2021) arguing against the idea Anjali was assaulted
I don’t know Wayne’s real reason for denying access to his land or whether it was his mistake or hers that I said this awful thing. But what a damn shame if disclosure didn’t happen because someone said a mum from Melbourne said something she never said. [Note: Turns out the claim that I accused "Wayne" of bad things was entirely Anjali's fabrication.]
I am so fed up with people around here making shit up or failing to do due diligence so they can spin a yarn or blame others for their own frustrations & recklessness. I’m fed up with people not understanding that when things don't make sense it’s because you're being lied to.
See that last line of legal posturing? From my conversation with Stu (he said Anjali was on the line at the same time), it seems Anjali wants me to believe Wayne & Trisha are the “other parties” suing for libel - unnamed “to protect their identity.”
W&T want their privacy because they don’t have frickin’ aliens on their land. Right now they are merely characters in Anjali’s narrative, and fictional characters can’t sue. If she files a suit they become named and lose their privacy – the one thing they don’t want.
After the lies Anjali admits telling to protect W&T, we're to believe she'll now expose them? For $$ she doesn’t want? To correct errors she refuses to point out? To accuse me of stuff I didn’t say? To take down a website that transcribes her own words and laffs about aliens?
To punish someone who didn’t play along?
I never said (or thought it possible) Wayne committed a violent crime. I said the opposite. Today I have no reason to believe he thinks I said that, or that he's suing me for libel.
Advice to Stu: You are being misled.
See that last line of legal posturing? From my conversation with Stu (he said Anjali was on the line at the same time), it seems Anjali wants me to believe Wayne & Trisha are the “other parties” suing for libel - unnamed “to protect their identity.”
W&T want their privacy because they don’t have frickin’ aliens on their land. Right now they are merely characters in Anjali’s narrative, and fictional characters can’t sue. If she files a suit they become named and lose their privacy – the one thing they don’t want.
After the lies Anjali admits telling to protect W&T, we're to believe she'll now expose them? For $$ she doesn’t want? To correct errors she refuses to point out? To accuse me of stuff I didn’t say? To take down a website that transcribes her own words and laffs about aliens?
To punish someone who didn’t play along?
I never said (or thought it possible) Wayne committed a violent crime. I said the opposite. Today I have no reason to believe he thinks I said that, or that he's suing me for libel.
Advice to Stu: You are being misled.
Wayne again (Feb 27, 2022)
Note: In mid-October 2021, I was in a Discord UFO research group. Our attention was drawn to a possible candidate for "Wayne and Trisha". We also considered if this might be the "unnamed couple" in Anjali's story. We didn't follow up too far at the time because Anjali had apparently confirmed the first Wayne was the correct one. By early 2022 I once again considered this couple, and in February 2022 requested the 911 record of an ambulance attending their home on Jan 21, 2018. Then, on Jan 23, 2022, the couple reached out to me after Anjali copied them on a legal letter she'd sent me, which implied they were joining her lawsuit. They wanted me to tell their story. Before doing so, I wrote the following about how the Wayne that Anjali had confirmed was her Wayne... was not.
Anjali retweeted James A Conrad confirming she was examined by EMTs at a mountain home on Jan 21, 2018, the date of her experience. This is about how one Wayne became...
I said there was one Wayne – I was wrong.
James found a possible Wayne in Sep 2021. We researched details from Anjali’s story and I told Steven Cambian, who called him. Anjali appeared to confirm to Steven it was the right Wayne.
But the matching bio details are coincidences.
The irony isn’t lost on me that recently someone matched me to a prominent skeptical Aussie based on matching bio details. The difference? I told the truth about me. And I’m nobody, rather than someone who holds the key to humanity’s salvation. Anyway…
When you hold a “press” conference about an ET base in a mountain, it's hardly surprising that:
I just spoke about people who don’t play along. What about those who do?
James found a possible Wayne in Sep 2021. We researched details from Anjali’s story and I told Steven Cambian, who called him. Anjali appeared to confirm to Steven it was the right Wayne.
But the matching bio details are coincidences.
The irony isn’t lost on me that recently someone matched me to a prominent skeptical Aussie based on matching bio details. The difference? I told the truth about me. And I’m nobody, rather than someone who holds the key to humanity’s salvation. Anyway…
When you hold a “press” conference about an ET base in a mountain, it's hardly surprising that:
- if we think it could be true, we want to find it!
- if we think it’s not true, we want to find out why someone (former defense blah-di-blah or any person really) says it’s true.
I just spoke about people who don’t play along. What about those who do?
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When Anjali says “Charlie and others”, she’s ignoring that I:
Who, between them, did these things?
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Anjali only named "Charlie", but regarding these three gentlemen: the following shows how she used two of them for her own ends, and let off the hook the third who actually did dox the "Wayne" that some of us believed (because she'd confirmed it) was her Wayne.
Steven Cambian explains he dismissed Anjali’s whole story only to discover Wayne was real. Verifying Wayne was the only evidence for her experience and she let him believe and promote it, accepting his profuse apology and thanking him with a thank you and a smile.
Steven Cambian explains he dismissed Anjali’s whole story only to discover Wayne was real. Verifying Wayne was the only evidence for her experience and she let him believe and promote it, accepting his profuse apology and thanking him with a thank you and a smile.
Anjali on Truthseekers, Sep 13, 2021, accepting Steven Cambian's apology for not believing her story until "Wayne" was found and confirmed (deceitfully) by her.
Scott B sent notWayne’s file to a bully/liar who then claimed to fly drones and interview him (didn’t happen, remember), allegedly spooking theWayne into nixing the expedition. Scott spoke notWayne’s full name on air and tweeted it, and only deleted it when I suggested he should.
Oct 19, 2021: Scott Browne tweeted a map with Wayne's full name along with his belief it was the wrong man. On the right is my DM suggesting he remove it.
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James found notWayne, which ultimately ended humanity’s chance for irrefutable evidence of Anjali’s stuck-in-a-mountain higher beings of love n light. She used him to validate her entire experience, contrary to his explicitly stated intent:
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Jan 29, 2022: James A Conrad validated only the ambulance call. Anjali retweeted him as if he'd validated her entire experience.
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Anjali praises these guys despite their actions, even puts two on her poll (Oct 8, 2021), because she could twist their skepticism to her benefit. I respect them too, and worked a little or a lot with each of them. Yet by their actions THEY ARE 3/4ths THE REASON YOU’RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA TRANSCEND.
Meanwhile I get threatened (as a growth experience) for recording & organizing Anjali’s own words, asking her to correct errors (she blocked me instead), and outlining her inconsistencies and repeated failures to produce… anything. ALL while giving her the benefit of the doubt:
Meanwhile I get threatened (as a growth experience) for recording & organizing Anjali’s own words, asking her to correct errors (she blocked me instead), and outlining her inconsistencies and repeated failures to produce… anything. ALL while giving her the benefit of the doubt:
Two examples from Sep 2021 where I expressed the opinion that Anjali believed her own story
Nevertheless, I was wrong about Wayne. Sorry for misleading you. I assumed Anjali truthfully confirmed Wayne to Steven, and later lied in saying we had the wrong guy. In fact, she lied to Steven, and later truthfully said it was the wrong guy.
I went into this assuming Anjali was telling the truth, as she perceived it, in her initial post and interviews. Given the admitted lies and lack of transparency since, I now view every aspect of the story differently.
This was the appetizer. I’ll have more to say VERY SOON.
I went into this assuming Anjali was telling the truth, as she perceived it, in her initial post and interviews. Given the admitted lies and lack of transparency since, I now view every aspect of the story differently.
This was the appetizer. I’ll have more to say VERY SOON.
Wayne and Trisha have things to say (Feb 27, 2022)
Note: I wrote this following a Zoom call with Wayne & Trisha. At the time, I didn't have access to their written correspondence with Anjali, so while their speech is accurately transcribed, they are paraphrasing Anjali's communications from memory.
Trisha: Anjali tried to make it seem like we were going to be a part of [the libel suit against you]. I was like, “Oh hell, no!”
Wayne: That’s what made me reach out to you.
These two people want to remove themselves from the story.
RECAP: Anjali says she met Wayne & Trisha in Jan 2018, walked through a tunnel he'd dug in his mountain, and met aliens.
I just spoke to Wayne and Trisha for over an hour. I asked for their version of what happened that day. They are fed up, anxious, and scared.
Trisha: Anjali tried to make it seem like we were going to be a part of [the libel suit against you]. I was like, “Oh hell, no!”
Wayne: That’s what made me reach out to you.
These two people want to remove themselves from the story.
RECAP: Anjali says she met Wayne & Trisha in Jan 2018, walked through a tunnel he'd dug in his mountain, and met aliens.
I just spoke to Wayne and Trisha for over an hour. I asked for their version of what happened that day. They are fed up, anxious, and scared.
Anjali's account of what happened on Jan 21, 2018, is firmly disputed by her hosts.
While chatting as a group in the coffee shop, Wayne mentioned people seeing UFOs for years over his mountain. They invited Anjali home because “she seemed like a nice person.” Another couple, their friends, came home too.
Back home: “We did some cannabis oil. If you’re not used to cannabis oil, it can hit you hard. What I’m getting at is: we weren’t sober. It does alter your mind.”
They walked around the land for a bit, although not the mountain itself.
Not sober.
Stoned.
An ambulance showed up before it was even dark – Wayne had no idea why, until the sheriff said it was for a welfare check for Angelia because her daughter had called 911.
Then, she and Wayne chatted until a friend picked her up around 11:30PM.
Wayne: “Whatever experience Angelia had here is really in her mind. There was no mention of tunnels or aliens that night." (Other than talk of UFOs at the coffee shop.)
And when she picked up her car the next day: “Not a word.”
For the next couple of weeks, Anjali texted Trisha asking to meet up. Still no mention of aliens in tunnels. “I ignored her.”
Wayne: “Because we were freaked out by her.”
Wayne and Trisha do not want to be part of this story. They never wanted to be.
Three years later, a week before the press conference, Wayne & Trisha gave in to Anjali’s persistent attempts to reconnect. [They eventually talked the day before the presser.] She said she’d had an alien experience in Wayne’s tunnel. They were baffled! Wayne had no tunnels.
Anjali said: "Oh yes you do. You just don't remember."
Wayne: “I’ve tried to explain there’s no tunnel here. I can’t convince her.”
Anjali has been pressuring them to allow an expedition. Under the stress, sometimes he’s felt like buckling just to get it over with. But he doesn't want strangers on his land. (Especially not Max.)
Wayne says Anjali told him: "You have no idea who I am. You have no idea what I’m capable of."
He says: "When I realize she’s a powerful person who can push a button and jack our life…"
When Anjali was being “real persistent” last year, Wayne said she could buy his land for $10 million. “We leave and you can have this whole place and we don’t have to deal with this.”
She said Bigelow Aerospace would pay $20 million!!
For a few acres of mountain with no aliens.
TRISHA to ANJALI: I wish we would’ve never met you. I wish we never invited you to our home. You’re not my friend. You never were my friend. Stop saying you’re my friend.
ANJALI to TRISHA: I’m your friend whether you think so or not. Love, your friend.
What they want is for Anjali to just go away.
Trisha: “I’m so frustrated about what she’s done to our lives. Woman-to-woman, I’m a very angry wife.”
Did I mention Wayne is not a fan of Max? He says he told Max: "I don't know who you think you are, Max, talking about my cancer as if you think you know me. You don't know shit. Stop talking about my cancer out there."
Let’s give Anjali the benefit of the doubt: she had an experience of some sort while high.
But there is no tunnel. So whatever happened, it was in her head. It was not in a tunnel with aliens inside. Therefore, Wayne and Trisha are not a part of her story.
Again, Wayne and Trisha tell me aliens in tunnels were never spoken about that day, the next day, or in messages for the next two weeks (after which they lost touch). Three years later, Anjali returns with a tale of Lavvy removing her consciousness in a mist of light.
Trisha: "She said they were standing over her and they were all shiny, and I'm thinking, 'Yeah, that was the ambulance you were in, lady.'"
Anjali's assessment of Wayne and Trisha matches mine: they are genuine and lovely people. We had a good laugh. But their anguish is palpable.
They've tried everything they can think of to make her go away. "We need to stop the cycle."
How can Wayne and Trisha make Anjali accept that they are not part of her story? That whatever happened, it was in her head. That whatever she "remembers" now, it doesn't reflect reality.
That there ARE NO TUNNELS OR ALIENS in Wayne's mountain.
Back home: “We did some cannabis oil. If you’re not used to cannabis oil, it can hit you hard. What I’m getting at is: we weren’t sober. It does alter your mind.”
They walked around the land for a bit, although not the mountain itself.
Not sober.
Stoned.
An ambulance showed up before it was even dark – Wayne had no idea why, until the sheriff said it was for a welfare check for Angelia because her daughter had called 911.
Then, she and Wayne chatted until a friend picked her up around 11:30PM.
Wayne: “Whatever experience Angelia had here is really in her mind. There was no mention of tunnels or aliens that night." (Other than talk of UFOs at the coffee shop.)
And when she picked up her car the next day: “Not a word.”
For the next couple of weeks, Anjali texted Trisha asking to meet up. Still no mention of aliens in tunnels. “I ignored her.”
Wayne: “Because we were freaked out by her.”
Wayne and Trisha do not want to be part of this story. They never wanted to be.
Three years later, a week before the press conference, Wayne & Trisha gave in to Anjali’s persistent attempts to reconnect. [They eventually talked the day before the presser.] She said she’d had an alien experience in Wayne’s tunnel. They were baffled! Wayne had no tunnels.
Anjali said: "Oh yes you do. You just don't remember."
Wayne: “I’ve tried to explain there’s no tunnel here. I can’t convince her.”
Anjali has been pressuring them to allow an expedition. Under the stress, sometimes he’s felt like buckling just to get it over with. But he doesn't want strangers on his land. (Especially not Max.)
Wayne says Anjali told him: "You have no idea who I am. You have no idea what I’m capable of."
He says: "When I realize she’s a powerful person who can push a button and jack our life…"
When Anjali was being “real persistent” last year, Wayne said she could buy his land for $10 million. “We leave and you can have this whole place and we don’t have to deal with this.”
She said Bigelow Aerospace would pay $20 million!!
For a few acres of mountain with no aliens.
TRISHA to ANJALI: I wish we would’ve never met you. I wish we never invited you to our home. You’re not my friend. You never were my friend. Stop saying you’re my friend.
ANJALI to TRISHA: I’m your friend whether you think so or not. Love, your friend.
What they want is for Anjali to just go away.
Trisha: “I’m so frustrated about what she’s done to our lives. Woman-to-woman, I’m a very angry wife.”
Did I mention Wayne is not a fan of Max? He says he told Max: "I don't know who you think you are, Max, talking about my cancer as if you think you know me. You don't know shit. Stop talking about my cancer out there."
Let’s give Anjali the benefit of the doubt: she had an experience of some sort while high.
But there is no tunnel. So whatever happened, it was in her head. It was not in a tunnel with aliens inside. Therefore, Wayne and Trisha are not a part of her story.
Again, Wayne and Trisha tell me aliens in tunnels were never spoken about that day, the next day, or in messages for the next two weeks (after which they lost touch). Three years later, Anjali returns with a tale of Lavvy removing her consciousness in a mist of light.
Trisha: "She said they were standing over her and they were all shiny, and I'm thinking, 'Yeah, that was the ambulance you were in, lady.'"
Anjali's assessment of Wayne and Trisha matches mine: they are genuine and lovely people. We had a good laugh. But their anguish is palpable.
They've tried everything they can think of to make her go away. "We need to stop the cycle."
How can Wayne and Trisha make Anjali accept that they are not part of her story? That whatever happened, it was in her head. That whatever she "remembers" now, it doesn't reflect reality.
That there ARE NO TUNNELS OR ALIENS in Wayne's mountain.
Anjali's delusions caused immense stress to a couple, at a time they were dealing with a life-threatening illness.
P.S. There is no big wooden arch teleporter pad dividing Wayne's house in two. Wayne tells me there is a door separating the front and back of the house. This revelation crushed me.
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey (Mar 1, 2022)
Wayne and Trisha told me they took cannabis oil with Anjali after inviting her to their home. Anjali denies that could cause her to hallucinate aliens, therefore her experience that day is real.
Anjali admitted in early Nov 2021 to taking "medical cannabis" the day of her 2018 experience. She has always denied it affected her perception or memory in any way. We now know she took extremely potent high-THC Rick Simpson Oil.
Wayne and Trisha gave me further information about how the day played out in their mountainous Mojave home. I will also provide independent verification.
I'm not debating if cannabis oil can make you see aliens. Anjali's hosts say they never heard her mention aliens in a tunnel. Perhaps her imagination combined various experiences of higher beings over the years into a cohesive narrative, placing it in Wayne's home on a fuzzily remembered day?
I'm not debating if cannabis oil can make you see aliens. Anjali's hosts say they never heard her mention aliens in a tunnel. Perhaps her imagination combined various experiences of higher beings over the years into a cohesive narrative, placing it in Wayne's home on a fuzzily remembered day?
Anjali has admitted to taking synthetic mushrooms (which contain DMT) in late 2018. Could drug experiences like this have distorted her already fuzzy memories of the Jan 2018 experience?
Was the day fuzzily remembered? If so, feel free to speculate why. But my only question is: was it?
By comparing Anjali’s recalled timeline with the facts, we can assess if her mind was clear on the events, as she insists, or somewhat messed up.
ANJALI'S VERSION:
On Jan 21, 2018, she entered a tunnel in Wayne’s mountain at 3PM, met Lavvy, was teleported back to Wayne’s magic arch at 9PM, whereupon she called her daughter who sent an ambulance. A friend collected her at 3AM. “I can’t account for six hours.”
By comparing Anjali’s recalled timeline with the facts, we can assess if her mind was clear on the events, as she insists, or somewhat messed up.
ANJALI'S VERSION:
On Jan 21, 2018, she entered a tunnel in Wayne’s mountain at 3PM, met Lavvy, was teleported back to Wayne’s magic arch at 9PM, whereupon she called her daughter who sent an ambulance. A friend collected her at 3AM. “I can’t account for six hours.”
Anjali's account of Anjali's Amazing Adventure
WAYNE & TRISHA'S VERSION:
On Jan 21, 2018, they dabbed in a coffee shop with Anjali and invited her home, walked around the backyard awhile, the ambulance came when “it was still light outside”, then Wayne talked with her until she was picked up around 11:30PM. "Whatever experience Angelia had here is really in her mind."
On Jan 21, 2018, they dabbed in a coffee shop with Anjali and invited her home, walked around the backyard awhile, the ambulance came when “it was still light outside”, then Wayne talked with her until she was picked up around 11:30PM. "Whatever experience Angelia had here is really in her mind."
Wayne & Trisha's account of Anjali's Not-So-Amazing Adventure
"[W]e started heading down to the tunnel around 3 in the afternoon and it was after 9PM when I first got out my phone to contact my daughter after I had just returned. So 6 hours went by. I can’t account for six hours..." [Extraterrestrial Evidence podcast, Mar 10, 2021]
“Missing time” is an essential feature of CE5 stories but… that didn’t happen, unless it refers to 6 hours of conversation with Wayne that she can’t remember. Again, Wayne says she did not talk about the aliens she now claims she'd just met in his tunnel.
Back to the ambulance call: James A Conrad provided the hard evidence. He confirmed a 911 call to the address Anjali gave him. That call was made at 4:46PM. [Note: I received additional information from the county indicating Anjali called her daughter at 4:20PM, and she called an ambulance at 4:27PM.] Not "after 9PM", which is when Anjali says her daughter was so concerned by her condition that she called 911.
The 911 call at 4:27PM matches Wayne & Trisha’s recollection that the ambulance arrived when it was still light. Sunset was shortly after 5PM that day (thanks, Google). Anjali says the ambulance came between 10-midnight. In the dark. Why is she remembering this so very wrongly?
I am once again dismayed by an experiencer’s lack of curiosity. While pondering her amazing lavender day, Anjali could’ve checked the call time on her phone and immediately discovered she didn’t have 6 missing hours, thus saving us 12 months of drama. But she didn’t.
“Missing time” is an essential feature of CE5 stories but… that didn’t happen, unless it refers to 6 hours of conversation with Wayne that she can’t remember. Again, Wayne says she did not talk about the aliens she now claims she'd just met in his tunnel.
Back to the ambulance call: James A Conrad provided the hard evidence. He confirmed a 911 call to the address Anjali gave him. That call was made at 4:46PM. [Note: I received additional information from the county indicating Anjali called her daughter at 4:20PM, and she called an ambulance at 4:27PM.] Not "after 9PM", which is when Anjali says her daughter was so concerned by her condition that she called 911.
The 911 call at 4:27PM matches Wayne & Trisha’s recollection that the ambulance arrived when it was still light. Sunset was shortly after 5PM that day (thanks, Google). Anjali says the ambulance came between 10-midnight. In the dark. Why is she remembering this so very wrongly?
I am once again dismayed by an experiencer’s lack of curiosity. While pondering her amazing lavender day, Anjali could’ve checked the call time on her phone and immediately discovered she didn’t have 6 missing hours, thus saving us 12 months of drama. But she didn’t.
Has Anjali's daughter tried to correct her mother on the time of their call?
Who misremembers that an ambulance came in daylight, not at night? That they were picked up before midnight, not 3AM? Why is Anjali’s memory of the timeline of that wibbly wobbly day so monumentally screwed up?
What causes timey wimey distortions?
What causes timey wimey distortions?
Frivolous (Mar 4, 2022)
Based on Anjali’s messages to me and others, she has some serious misperceptions about things I’ve said. I will address them so she can save herself some filing fees. I will charitably call this a case of “mistaken identity”.
Anjali’s accusations (some are libelous, she sez):
Background: I wrote before about some earlier errors Anjali made regarding the creation and purpose of my social media accounts. The remaining accusations she’s made were in texts to Wayne & Trisha, and emails to me.
ANJALI SEZ: that I claim she’s lying about her experience.
She is WRONG. I’ve always said I think she believes her own story about meeting aliens in a tunnel that Wayne dug.
- I said she’s lying about her experience
- I said Wayne drugged and assaulted her while others filmed
- I deleted tweets about the above
- I said Wayne doesn’t have cancer
- I worked with RGordon to find W
Background: I wrote before about some earlier errors Anjali made regarding the creation and purpose of my social media accounts. The remaining accusations she’s made were in texts to Wayne & Trisha, and emails to me.
ANJALI SEZ: that I claim she’s lying about her experience.
She is WRONG. I’ve always said I think she believes her own story about meeting aliens in a tunnel that Wayne dug.
Tweets where I said I think Anjali is not lying about her experience because she believes it
Yes, I’ve said Anjali was not transparent, and was “lying for Jesus” (i.e. for a higher good), about the expedition and about Wayne.
ANJALI SEZ: “This anonymous account is also the one who suggested that… you drugged me, led me into a cave and took sexual advantage of me, and filmed it all.” ~ Anj to Wayne & Trisha, Feb 27, 2022
She is WRONG.
I never thought Wayne assaulted Anjali, never said it. Anjali is ascribing to me a bunch of things that other people have speculated. She is muddled, and/or others are feeding her crappy information. From Discord Aug-Oct 2021:
ANJALI SEZ: “This anonymous account is also the one who suggested that… you drugged me, led me into a cave and took sexual advantage of me, and filmed it all.” ~ Anj to Wayne & Trisha, Feb 27, 2022
She is WRONG.
I never thought Wayne assaulted Anjali, never said it. Anjali is ascribing to me a bunch of things that other people have speculated. She is muddled, and/or others are feeding her crappy information. From Discord Aug-Oct 2021:
I wasn’t on Discord during that initial speculation about assault. Later, I ignored it. In November, after Anjali said she’d read online speculation about assault, I said: nope. Being drugged against her will? I said: nope.
ANJALI SEZ: “Charlie deleted many of her nasty love tunnel tweets that contained the references to drugging me, taking advantage of me in a tunnel, filming it. She absolutely tweeted that and it was reported by multiple people.”
She is WRONG.
Well, I don’t know if Anjali is wrong about what dumbasses may be reporting, but I did not delete any tweets about Wayne’s nefarious tunnel activities because I never wrote any. (I don’t recall saying “love tunnel” - if I did it would’ve been in relation to Lavvy’s tender love.)
She is WRONG.
Well, I don’t know if Anjali is wrong about what dumbasses may be reporting, but I did not delete any tweets about Wayne’s nefarious tunnel activities because I never wrote any. (I don’t recall saying “love tunnel” - if I did it would’ve been in relation to Lavvy’s tender love.)
I searched my Twitter archive (downloaded Nov 20, 2021) for tweets deleted since that day. Any references to drugs are consensual. Nothing about assault. Because I’m not a dumbass, I don’t hold (or tweet) diametrically opposing viewpoints at the same time.
Tweets I deleted for various reasons since Nov 20, 2022, none of which refer to Anjali being drugged against her will and assaulted
ANJALI SEZ: that I am "the one who has suggested that someone paid you [Wayne] to cancel the expedition”.
Nope. Never said it, never thought it. Maybe someone somewhere did. Can’t be bothered to look up the evidence for this bullshit. Didn't happen. Don’t care.
ANJALI SEZ: that I claimed she & Wayne “meditated together and tripped on DMT”.
Yeah loads of us speculated her mind was in an altered state. Turns out, we were right.
ANJALI SEZ: “She worked with that porn producer Ryan Gordon to find 'Wayne' and she shared information with him”.
Nope. I have not spoken with or messaged him since July. Have never spoken to him about Anjali. Did not share with him any information about Wayne. (Scott Browne can confirm.) [Note: I shared information with Scott, who presumably shared it with RG.]
ANJALI SEZ: “She also doesn't think you have cancer”.
Nope. More bullshit. Never thought it, never said it.
Someone doesn’t know the difference between Charlie Wiser and “random internet person saying other shit”.
Nope. Never said it, never thought it. Maybe someone somewhere did. Can’t be bothered to look up the evidence for this bullshit. Didn't happen. Don’t care.
ANJALI SEZ: that I claimed she & Wayne “meditated together and tripped on DMT”.
Yeah loads of us speculated her mind was in an altered state. Turns out, we were right.
ANJALI SEZ: “She worked with that porn producer Ryan Gordon to find 'Wayne' and she shared information with him”.
Nope. I have not spoken with or messaged him since July. Have never spoken to him about Anjali. Did not share with him any information about Wayne. (Scott Browne can confirm.) [Note: I shared information with Scott, who presumably shared it with RG.]
ANJALI SEZ: “She also doesn't think you have cancer”.
Nope. More bullshit. Never thought it, never said it.
Someone doesn’t know the difference between Charlie Wiser and “random internet person saying other shit”.
The day after (Mar 9, 2022)
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In November 2021 Anjali sent Wayne & Trisha some scribbled notes she claimed to only just have uncovered, written the day after she met aliens in their tunnel. These notes are the only (allegedly) contemporaneous account of Anjali's first contact with actual ETs in an actual base at the end of an actual tunnel dug by Wayne through a Mojave mountain.
So many things not making sense to me about this document. Here are a few. [I did a deeper analysis of the notes on March 20, 2022.] |
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Who wakes up super buzzed and discombobulated the day after making first contact with aliens for realz and starts their historically invaluable report with an orderly bulleted list of everyone else’s (but not their own) name, address, zip code, phone, and job? Mine be like:
Who scribbles notes about the most important alien-human incident in history on a piece of used paper?
And even if so, who doesn’t then, at the first opportunity, switch on their laptop over there and type up a full report with every last detail? And back it up in 9 places?
Who signs the most important information ever put to paper, if humanity is to survive, with their first name only instead of logging their full name, address, phone number, email, emergency contact, and feeding instructions for the cats in case the MiB vanishes them?
Who tells some Reddit u/ their memory of an event three years ago hasn’t changed since they first noted it down, even though they won’t be finding those notes for another 8 months? How would they know if their memories had changed?
When will this start making sense? #logic
And even if so, who doesn’t then, at the first opportunity, switch on their laptop over there and type up a full report with every last detail? And back it up in 9 places?
Who signs the most important information ever put to paper, if humanity is to survive, with their first name only instead of logging their full name, address, phone number, email, emergency contact, and feeding instructions for the cats in case the MiB vanishes them?
Who tells some Reddit u/ their memory of an event three years ago hasn’t changed since they first noted it down, even though they won’t be finding those notes for another 8 months? How would they know if their memories had changed?
When will this start making sense? #logic
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Who remembers that they keep remembering-then-forgetting something when they keep forgetting that they keep remembering something? My sentence makes sense. This one doesn’t:
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Anjali's tweet Mar 3, 2022, presenting the notes she said she found in Nov 2021 (when she sent them to Wayne & Trisha).
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Who keeps remembering that they're destined to be the most famous human being of all time, yet each time they remember anew they never once write it down on a fresh sheet of paper or save it to a .docx and store it somewhere safe?
Corkboards are awesome for this.
Corkboards are awesome for this.
Tunnel vision (Mar 10, 2022)
Anjali promised to bring back scientific evidence of higher beings in Wayne’s mountain. So far, that evidence has been elusive. So goes the phenomenon.
Almost as good: photographic evidence of the shed and Wayne’s hidden tunnel!
Almost as good: photographic evidence of the shed and Wayne’s hidden tunnel!
To set the scene:
"Wayne walked me to a shed… All of that was camouflaged so you couldn’t see the opening at all... The men donned headlamps... We go inside and that’s when I see the wood that’s going across from the shed that everything is draped over." - Anjali
[Note: Trisha tells me they do not own miner's headlamps.]
The "military-grade camo netting" Wayne draped over the shed to hide it from the government is gone, as of yesterday (when the pic was acquired). Also, there is no evidence of explosives at the site. There is, however, evidence of excavating equipment.
HERE 'TIS!
"Wayne walked me to a shed… All of that was camouflaged so you couldn’t see the opening at all... The men donned headlamps... We go inside and that’s when I see the wood that’s going across from the shed that everything is draped over." - Anjali
[Note: Trisha tells me they do not own miner's headlamps.]
The "military-grade camo netting" Wayne draped over the shed to hide it from the government is gone, as of yesterday (when the pic was acquired). Also, there is no evidence of explosives at the site. There is, however, evidence of excavating equipment.
HERE 'TIS!
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To the untrained eye, this "shed" may look like the area underneath the floor of a patio.
This "tunnel" may look like an alcove excavated with a pickax. (The netting was for shade.) Who’s to say what the truth is? |
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Close-up of the alcove Wayne excavated.
(I am not kidding. These are photos of the patio area Anjali was shown that day.) Sometimes Wayne & Trisha like to put a Buddha statue in the alcove. I'm not asserting Lavvy isn't in there, but he's pretty hard to spot. |
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While this patio and beams are clearly the "shed" Anjali described, it's not where she dropped flags on the map she sent Wayne and Trisha after the presser. They showed her this patio again during a video call in August, day before the presser when they were trying to explain there was no tunnel - she apparently didn't recognize it as there was no shade netting there anymore, but there was in January 2018.
Map with Anjali’s two flags and the patio:
Map with Anjali’s two flags and the patio:
- Green flag: a regular workshed. No tunnel, not even an alcove. Don’t know why she flagged it. She probably looked on Google Maps and saw the shed.
- Tunnel 1: Matches Anjali's description of beams going into the mountain with netting, but it's just an alcove.
- Red flag/Tunnel 2: halfway up the mountain, where Anjali now claims the tunnel is. She never went there and it's not even Wayne's land.
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It is my sincere hope that photos of the site, and Wayne telling his story on Saturday, will help Anjali to move back to reality. She is telling Wayne he doesn’t remember things that he can verify by looking out his window.
Can she accept that she misremembers? BONUS! Here's the arch where Wayne & Anjali were zapped out of the alien base. Blurred for privacy - Lavvy's taking a shower back there. Alien teleportation device or sliding barn door? Either way, I want one in my home! |
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Delusions of grandeur (Mar 19, 2022)
Remember when we all said there’s no way a guy with cancer could single-handedly excavate a huge tunnel through a mountain?
Anjali said at her presser: “[the] tunnel had been excavated by a man who, yes, knows how to do it and laughs wholeheartedly at the idea it can't be done. It's quite amusing.”
Listen to 53 seconds of her call with Wayne. She's the one laughing wholeheartedly.
Does Wayne know how to dig the tunnel Anjali described?
THE TUNNEL: 6’ tall, 5’ wide, takes 5-10 minutes to traverse. At 2-3mph, that makes it 300-900 yards long. (300 yards is way beyond the boundary of his land, by the way.)
Let’s generously round everything down to give Wayne a fighting chance. What are the logistics of digging a 200-yard tunnel with or even without explosives? Does he have the equipment, finances, and knowledge to do it?
I asked him!
The short answer is: no. But you already knew that.
The long answer is: Absofuckinlutely not.
The woo answer is: bUt ThE aYyYyS mUsTa HeLpEd hIm!
Let’s explore the non-magical answer, since Anjali told us (& Wayne) that of course he knows how to excavate a huge tunnel.
Wayne owns a construction company. He builds houses and retaining walls. He pours a lot of concrete, which I dunno seems like the opposite of excavation?
What’s Wayne’s experience with explosives?
“We don’t even use sparklers on the 4th of July. Fire danger is too great here.”
Does Wayne have a tunnel borer or other equipment to dig a tunnel?
“We don’t even own a tractor.”
Yes, he wants to excavate tunnels one day. So far he’s made this. With a pick and shovel.
Anjali said at her presser: “[the] tunnel had been excavated by a man who, yes, knows how to do it and laughs wholeheartedly at the idea it can't be done. It's quite amusing.”
Listen to 53 seconds of her call with Wayne. She's the one laughing wholeheartedly.
Does Wayne know how to dig the tunnel Anjali described?
THE TUNNEL: 6’ tall, 5’ wide, takes 5-10 minutes to traverse. At 2-3mph, that makes it 300-900 yards long. (300 yards is way beyond the boundary of his land, by the way.)
Let’s generously round everything down to give Wayne a fighting chance. What are the logistics of digging a 200-yard tunnel with or even without explosives? Does he have the equipment, finances, and knowledge to do it?
I asked him!
The short answer is: no. But you already knew that.
The long answer is: Absofuckinlutely not.
The woo answer is: bUt ThE aYyYyS mUsTa HeLpEd hIm!
Let’s explore the non-magical answer, since Anjali told us (& Wayne) that of course he knows how to excavate a huge tunnel.
Wayne owns a construction company. He builds houses and retaining walls. He pours a lot of concrete, which I dunno seems like the opposite of excavation?
What’s Wayne’s experience with explosives?
- He doesn’t have a license to use explosives
- He has never used explosives
- He doesn’t know how to use explosives
“We don’t even use sparklers on the 4th of July. Fire danger is too great here.”
Does Wayne have a tunnel borer or other equipment to dig a tunnel?
“We don’t even own a tractor.”
Yes, he wants to excavate tunnels one day. So far he’s made this. With a pick and shovel.
The small alcove Wayne has dug into his mountain, under a patio that Anjali mistook for a secret entrance to a long tunnel leading to an alien base.
Does Wayne have $000,000s to…?
No.
And if he did pay for all this stuff but forgot, there is no paper trail.
Do Wayne’s family, friends and neighbors remember him spending his free time excavating a tunnel in the years prior to 2018?
No.
And his property is situated such that the entire town would know about that kind of activity on his mountain.
Wayne did not have the $, equipment or knowledge to build Anjali's tunnel. But because she knows her memory is accurate, she interpreted his every word through a lens.
This is called delusion. She convinced herself it was possible, and told the world he’d done the impossible.
- Hire an explosives expert and a shit-ton of dynamite
- Rent boring machinery
- Haul way tens of thousands of cubic feet of rubble
No.
And if he did pay for all this stuff but forgot, there is no paper trail.
Do Wayne’s family, friends and neighbors remember him spending his free time excavating a tunnel in the years prior to 2018?
No.
And his property is situated such that the entire town would know about that kind of activity on his mountain.
Wayne did not have the $, equipment or knowledge to build Anjali's tunnel. But because she knows her memory is accurate, she interpreted his every word through a lens.
This is called delusion. She convinced herself it was possible, and told the world he’d done the impossible.
Duly noted (Mar 20, 2022)
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Were Anjali's rediscovered notes written the day after her experience, Jan 22, 2018? She sent them to Bryan & Stacey (Wayne & Trisha) on Nov 10, 2021, three weeks after they denied permission for the Teapot expedition.
In my opinion there's evidence the notes were written between Aug 16, 2021 (after she first Zoomed with Bryan & Stacey) and Nov 10, 2021 (when she sent them the document as evidence she was being truthful about her recollections of the night). The most obvious problem with Anjali’s notes is that they are simply a summary of her Mar 1, 2021, Reddit post, written 8 months before she “discovered” them. If she kept forgetting/remembering her experience as claimed, it’s not plausible the accounts would match, beat-for beat. So: Anjali says the notes were her immediate recollection (Jan 2018), which she lost, and the Reddit post (Mar 2021) was based on 3 years of recollections, not on the lost notes which she would not find until 8 months later (Nov 2021). |
The bullet-point notes Anjali claims she wrote on the afternoon after her experience in Jan 2018, and only rediscovered in Nov 2021. Click to enlarge.
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But what it looks like is: the notes are derived from the Reddit post. These scrawled memories from the day after are bullet points written in almost exactly the same order as her Reddit post. I believe she summarized that post to create the notes.
Below I've transcribed the notes with a point-by-point breakdown of the anachronisms that indicate the notes were written not only after her Reddit post, but even later - after the Zoom call in Aug 2021. There had been a two-week silence between Anjali and the couple before she sent them these notes in November, saying she'd just found them. I believe she had in fact just written them, in an attempt to keep the lines of communication open.
Below I've transcribed the notes with a point-by-point breakdown of the anachronisms that indicate the notes were written not only after her Reddit post, but even later - after the Zoom call in Aug 2021. There had been a two-week silence between Anjali and the couple before she sent them these notes in November, saying she'd just found them. I believe she had in fact just written them, in an attempt to keep the lines of communication open.
Anjali's handwritten notes, allegedly written Jan 22, 2018, after which she lost the notes and forgot the experience |
Reddit post, in order (Mar 2021), written 8 months before Anjali "discovered" her handwritten notes |
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Jan 21 Sunday 2018 @ ______ Cafe with Niko ______ 1030ish – came into cafe Bryan & Stacey _______ |
Sunday January 21, 2018 a friend of mine from LA late morning favorite place a couple walked in Wayne and Trisha |
Niko or “Nick” was not involved in Anjali's alien adventure in any way, so it's odd she includes him in her story, including, over time, details about his life - his job, relationship status, and home on the coast. (He blocked me when I contacted him.) |
Lorenzo & Joelynn? |
another couple entered |
In their Aug 2021 Zoom call, Stacey names the "unnamed couple". Anjali responds: “I’ve never remembered what their names were.” Yet their names are on her 2018 notes. She forgot that she once knew their names? Or… she wrote the notes after that 2021 call? |
Address: 1357 (9) [Any Street] |
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Anjali includes two properties (1357 and 1359). In 2018 she could not have known the second address was relevant. It doesn’t even exist (except as a Google Maps error). But due to a miscommunication in Aug 2021, she thought it was relevant - the location of the tunnel. So it appears on the notes. |
[Town], CA 9XX__ |
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Anjali writes only the first three numbers of the ZIP. Yet she also claims she dropped a pin on the property and sent the address to her daughter and friends, so the full ZIP was available to her in 2018. However, if she wrote the notes in 2021 (when she no longer had the same phone) she may have thought it would look more believable to not "remember" the full ZIP the day after. |
B____ Construction Company |
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There was no reason in 2018 for Anjali to write Bryan's company down, but after coming out in 2021 it had become an issue: it was important for people to know he worked in construction and was therefore (allegedly) able to excavate a tunnel. There was also no reason for Anjali to get Bryan's company name wrong! If we accept he told her the name, why did she get it wrong? But 3.5 years later, it's feasible she misremembered the company name as being his surname (the actual name starts with the same letter). |
Excavated tunnel Took me @3pm |
excavated a tunnel into the mountain Wayne walked me down the path that led to a shed |
In Anjali's Reddit post she does not give times for entering or leaving the tunnel, nor does she mention the missing 6 hours. A week later in her first interview, she makes a big deal of the timestamps and missing time. If she wrote the notes months after that, she would naturally include the times that "prove" her 6 missing hours. |
Bryan waited others left |
They allowed him to stay Trisha and their friends left |
These points were added to the notes as an afterthought. If Anjali created the notes from the Reddit post, where these points also come later in the story, this would be why they were inserted later in the notes. |
5 aliens / ETs 3 tall whitehaired light skinned 2M 1F 6-7’ tall 1 waiting back further 1 4’ grey |
three extraterrestrials [were] tall whites... 6'6" tall... skin incredibly white... hair was white. Two were facing us, and a third was behind them... 4' tall, humanoid, a classic grey |
(The "5" aliens includes the lavender being inside the base.) |
Took me to see Lavender being 7’ 8’!! |
lavender-skinned being 7'6" to 8' tall, not tiny as I had thought |
Lavvy keeps getting taller:
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Remember who you are Why you're here Prepare to transcend |
"Remember who you are," and "Remember why you're here,"... and that I must transcend |
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A lot of people aren't going to make it |
some of us simply will not make it |
This phrase appears later in the Reddit post (after Anjali returns from the base), but she placed it in the appropriate place in her handwritten notes. |
9 to 7 to 5 to 3? Council - 7 -> 4 aligned |
council... of seven members two of the members left remaining five members two additional members... left... joined with the other two... and the four together are coming |
She has never mentioned a Council of 9* (from Law of One), and this is the only anomaly in the notes. She did circle the 7 in pencil, as if emphasizing this is the correct number (the original size of the council). |
Finished with human existence! |
they are finished with the current human experiment |
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Urgent - hurry & remember |
The urgency is now |
This is the only point in the Reddit post that's in a different order, but still in the same paragraph. |
The cycle is ending End of an era Must prepare |
Humanity's days are ending in this era Humankind must... prepare |
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took back to Bryan |
after our 'talk', [when] I was back in the first area... |
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TELEPORTED our ASSES!! |
In the very next moment, Wayne and I were standing beneath the archway separating two areas of his home. In a split second, we were just there. |
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-WTF is happening?! -WTF is going on!? |
I exclaimed, "What the fuck just happened?" |
Stacey told me: ...they came in and joined us. She randomly yelled out “What the fuck! I’m in here again!!” |
Lorenzo - you're back that's what |
Wayne's friend answered, "Oh, you're back now." |
And my friend said sarcastically, “Yep. Here you are.” |
What did they say to you? What did they tell you? |
Wayne immediately began asking me numerous questions, "What did they say to you? Where did they take you? What did they tell you?" |
Whenever Anjali tells the story, or writes it in these two cases, she never includes the rest of this conversation. We never learn what Wayne saw, what he (or the other 3 witnesses) did for those 6 hours, etc. In her later interviews, this dialogue matches even closer to the notes. (Her memory got better each time she told the story?) |
9PM!!! |
[No times or missing time mentioned] |
As mentioned above, the timechecks were not in her Reddit post. She first gives times in her Mar 10, 2021, interview. If she wrote her notes the day after, she could have checked her phone and noticed that she was back at the house by 4:20PM, when she talked to her daughter. However, in Nov 2021 when she found/produced the notes, she'd been saying for 8 months that she had 6 hours of missing time. The ambulance call time (and therefore the timing of the call with her daughter) would not be discovered until late Jan 2022. |
No other memory rn [right now] about this |
[Mar 3, 2022: Anjali says she wrote the notes the afternoon of the day after. (Twitter) Apr 24, 2022: Anjali says "the next morning, I woke up and didn't remember going into the tunnel." (YouTube comment)] |
This final comment in the notes provides an excuse for why she didn't write a fuller account, and also predicts she will remember more later, which she fortuitously does. Since she also admits to forgetting and recalling the incident "over & again", there is no reason to think any additional details are accurate since she has no original memory to compare against. |
Angelia Mon Jan 22, 2018 |
My name is Anjali and I am here to deliver this message |
Despite putting pen to paper to describe the most awesome experience a human can have, Angelia does not even sign her full name or provide a current address. |
None of these points is conclusive. I'm throwing around ideas because it seems "off". God forbid I accuse her of forging notes on the oldest bit of paper she could find, then "rediscovering" them at a convenient time when her unfortunate hosts had denied her access to their property and she was desperate to re-open channels of communication by providing "evidence" her experience was real.
This is pure speculation based on my very humble opinion.
This is pure speculation based on my very humble opinion.
Edit May 30, 2023: Further evidence that the notes were not written in January 2018
From the start, Anjali always stated the Council had seven members (three remaining). She never mentioned nine members. But the notes say 9 to 7 to 5 to 3.
From the start, Anjali always stated the Council had seven members (three remaining). She never mentioned nine members. But the notes say 9 to 7 to 5 to 3.
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Anjali's mentions of the Council having seven members, on Reddit, interviews, and Twitter until October 2022.
She included the possibility of nine Council members on her scribbled notes (circling the 7 perhaps to show she was more confident with that number), but if that was written in January 2018 why did she never mention it? It was always seven members.
Perhaps to bring her theology more in line with the Law of One, at some point around November 2021 (if the notes were written then) Anjali decided there might be nine members after all. In May 2023 she tweeted that the Council was "7 to 9" members:
Perhaps to bring her theology more in line with the Law of One, at some point around November 2021 (if the notes were written then) Anjali decided there might be nine members after all. In May 2023 she tweeted that the Council was "7 to 9" members:
Again, this confusion over 7 vs 9 members was never part of her story during the first few months even though she wants us to believe it was right there in her contemporaneous notes. It appeared in November 2021 and 18 months later is part of the official narrative.
Strieber backs away slowly (Mar 31, 2022)
Whitley Strieber was interviewed on Truthseekers by Steven Cambian, who asked him about his acquaintance with Anjali:
She was involving you, claiming that you were brokering some deal.
Strieber: "Oh no, that was all very confused." [timestamped]
Whitley is why people go off-track with Anjali. He can't reconcile "distinguished career" and "sweet person" with her bold expedition that he was "certain" wouldn't happen... So he invents another layer of conspiracy to the narrative.
No, she got high and she's delusional.
Whitley wants us to think Anjali is being manipulated into promoting her nonsense story in order to catch the attention of the intelligence community and see how they'd react to a real alien meeting. [Note: During 2022 Anjali has been emphasizing the same narrative - that the presser and her dramatic claims were all to simply get the right info to the right people in government.]
He's as delusional as she is. Whitley, SHE GOT HIGH.
Whitley even acknowledges that Anjali got high. But because she's "sweet" and once had a respectable career, there has to be more to it.
Whitley, dude, SHE GOT HIGH. That's the story. And her narcissism makes her unable to back down. He can't see it because he's the same.
And the idea that anyone in the intel community took her seriously, thought her story would lead to meeting aliens, that this was a test to see how they'd react to the idea... What is Whitley smoking?? His brain is fried. Anjali should take heed: Whitley is her sad sad future.
She was involving you, claiming that you were brokering some deal.
Strieber: "Oh no, that was all very confused." [timestamped]
Whitley is why people go off-track with Anjali. He can't reconcile "distinguished career" and "sweet person" with her bold expedition that he was "certain" wouldn't happen... So he invents another layer of conspiracy to the narrative.
No, she got high and she's delusional.
Whitley wants us to think Anjali is being manipulated into promoting her nonsense story in order to catch the attention of the intelligence community and see how they'd react to a real alien meeting. [Note: During 2022 Anjali has been emphasizing the same narrative - that the presser and her dramatic claims were all to simply get the right info to the right people in government.]
He's as delusional as she is. Whitley, SHE GOT HIGH.
Whitley even acknowledges that Anjali got high. But because she's "sweet" and once had a respectable career, there has to be more to it.
Whitley, dude, SHE GOT HIGH. That's the story. And her narcissism makes her unable to back down. He can't see it because he's the same.
And the idea that anyone in the intel community took her seriously, thought her story would lead to meeting aliens, that this was a test to see how they'd react to the idea... What is Whitley smoking?? His brain is fried. Anjali should take heed: Whitley is her sad sad future.
Emergency (Apr 8, 2022)
I've received the sheriff's report of the call Anjali's daughter made on the afternoon of her alien encounter.
While the ambulance call was made at 4:45PM, and it arrived before sunset, the actual incident time per the sheriff was 4:20PM. Not "after 9PM" as Anjali remembers.
The incident occurred at 4:20PM (i.e. when Anj spoke to her daughter), and the 911 call was at 4:27.
Anjali was HIGH. That's why her memories are confused.
The report confirms the daughter was "concerned for mother’s welfare and requested an area check", paramedics checked Angelia, and her daughter was advised of the findings.
Maybe Anjali does talk to higher beings but she did not spend 6 hours in a tunnel with anyone that day.
Instead of accepting her memory is distorted by potent THC, Anjali accepts things are "even more not as they appear". She doubles down on her own version. The time difference is "fascinating". And then the beings tell her about time travel.
While the ambulance call was made at 4:45PM, and it arrived before sunset, the actual incident time per the sheriff was 4:20PM. Not "after 9PM" as Anjali remembers.
The incident occurred at 4:20PM (i.e. when Anj spoke to her daughter), and the 911 call was at 4:27.
- No 6 hours of missing time
- Light not dark when ambulance came
- Ambulance came before 5PM, not "between 10-midnight"
Anjali was HIGH. That's why her memories are confused.
The report confirms the daughter was "concerned for mother’s welfare and requested an area check", paramedics checked Angelia, and her daughter was advised of the findings.
Maybe Anjali does talk to higher beings but she did not spend 6 hours in a tunnel with anyone that day.
Instead of accepting her memory is distorted by potent THC, Anjali accepts things are "even more not as they appear". She doubles down on her own version. The time difference is "fascinating". And then the beings tell her about time travel.
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Anjali knew of the 4:45PM call time for weeks before I tweeted it. She aided James A Conrad in getting this one piece of hard evidence to confirm her story and used it to prove her "contact experience" was real...
...but didn't tell you that her timeline was not real. |
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Fantasy vs reality (Apr 10, 2022)
Anjali has developed a new theory to make everything okay without her having to consider the possibility her recollection may be in error.
Let's look at her evolving explanations against a backdrop of reality vs fantasy. With stickers. You'll never guess how it ends!
Anjali has admitted to taking Rick Simpson oil, a potent THC form of cannabis. Despite eyewitnesses stating she was high, she believes it did not affect her perception or memories at all.
Let's look at her evolving explanations against a backdrop of reality vs fantasy. With stickers. You'll never guess how it ends!
Anjali has admitted to taking Rick Simpson oil, a potent THC form of cannabis. Despite eyewitnesses stating she was high, she believes it did not affect her perception or memories at all.
So far, the ambulance call time at 4:27 is the only hard evidence of that day's timeline. This matches Bryan & Stacey's recollections but it means no 6 hours in an alien base. Quantum physics has an answer for that! Anjali has speculated that her tunnel experience was in an alt-universe.
GASLIGHTING 101: Bryan does not remember digging a tunnel. Anjali thinks he's simply forgotten digging it.
When reality won't conform, invoke MAGIC! Given Bryan insists there is no tunnel on his property, and given an alcove under a patio is what Anjali remembers as that non-existent tunnel, she has decided the tunnel entrance is holographically hidden.
Bryan doesn't have the money or skills to dig a long 6' high tunnel through his mountain.
PLOT TWIST! - did you guess? After Jan 21, 2018, Anjali left her parallel universe where Bryan is a super-rich explosives expert obsessed with finding an alien base in his mountain...
...and entered our universe, where Bryan's just a dude who won't even light a sparkler.
PLOT TWIST! - did you guess? After Jan 21, 2018, Anjali left her parallel universe where Bryan is a super-rich explosives expert obsessed with finding an alien base in his mountain...
...and entered our universe, where Bryan's just a dude who won't even light a sparkler.
Reality: Anjali got high and misremembered her confusing day. She even admitted she forgot and re-remembered it multiple times.
Fantasy: "they may not be the same Wayne and Trisha that I met at the coffee shop. I may not be in the same place that I was then. Or they may not be. Something could have happened so that other points – something that could make it all true". [Apr 9, 2022, Calling All Beings DDD22 with Anjali]
I feel like if she runs with this latest idea of Wayne & Trisha in some other universe taking her to meet aliens in a custom-built tunnel, she probably owes the "Wayne & Trisha" in this universe an apology.
Fantasy: "they may not be the same Wayne and Trisha that I met at the coffee shop. I may not be in the same place that I was then. Or they may not be. Something could have happened so that other points – something that could make it all true". [Apr 9, 2022, Calling All Beings DDD22 with Anjali]
I feel like if she runs with this latest idea of Wayne & Trisha in some other universe taking her to meet aliens in a custom-built tunnel, she probably owes the "Wayne & Trisha" in this universe an apology.
Doing the right thing (Jun 14, 2022)
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Last September, Anjali led Steven Cambian to believe the man James A Conrad and I found was her Wayne.
Remember Wayne? Tunnel guy. Took her to meet aliens. Anjali tweeted false information to steer researchers toward Wayne. This was to protect the real tunnel guy (who doesn’t have any tunnels, by the way) - and that’s understandable. But spreading lies has consequences. |
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By a tortuous route, the consequences culminated with Wayne being accused of taking $1000 and lying on-camera about meeting Anjali. She didn’t believe this.
Then she did.
Then she didn’t again.
During those halcyon days when she did, Max was outraged! #HoldWayneAccountable!!!
Then she did.
Then she didn’t again.
During those halcyon days when she did, Max was outraged! #HoldWayneAccountable!!!
Max calling for blood, from his and Anjali's phone call with Ryan Gordon, Mar 19, 2022 (recording subsequently released by Anjali)
We all make mistakes. What we do next matters.
I thought Wayne was Wayne. I told a couple of people who called the confused guy up. Eventually it led to the consequences above. I explained that mistake but it's not enough.
What I do next matters: Clear Wayne’s name. #ClearWayne
I was told Anjali talked to Wayne weeks ago. Awesome, if true. I was told Wayne denied taking $1000 from anyone or doing any interviews.
So, clearing Wayne’s name should be simple, right?
Anjali has not spoken up about Wayne’s denials. I know she’s busy, what with her "pyramid" of ET "areas of operation", but not one tweet to #ClearWayne?
Why the silence?
I thought Wayne was Wayne. I told a couple of people who called the confused guy up. Eventually it led to the consequences above. I explained that mistake but it's not enough.
What I do next matters: Clear Wayne’s name. #ClearWayne
I was told Anjali talked to Wayne weeks ago. Awesome, if true. I was told Wayne denied taking $1000 from anyone or doing any interviews.
So, clearing Wayne’s name should be simple, right?
Anjali has not spoken up about Wayne’s denials. I know she’s busy, what with her "pyramid" of ET "areas of operation", but not one tweet to #ClearWayne?
Why the silence?
Research (Jul 2, 2022)
Note: I wrote this following accusations that I had done something underhanded to obtain Anjali's 911 call record.
Following is the exact procedure I followed to get the public records relating to Anjali's ambulance call during her ET/THC experience. I may be a traumatized intel agent, but I did nothing underhand, illegal, secret, mysterious, or paranormal. You, too, can do it.
1. I emailed CONFIRE with date, destination, patient name.
2. They replied with incident #, and time unit arrived and left:
Following is the exact procedure I followed to get the public records relating to Anjali's ambulance call during her ET/THC experience. I may be a traumatized intel agent, but I did nothing underhand, illegal, secret, mysterious, or paranormal. You, too, can do it.
1. I emailed CONFIRE with date, destination, patient name.
2. They replied with incident #, and time unit arrived and left:
- 1st unit arrived on scene at 16:55:32
- Incident Closed 17:14:10
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3. I opened a request on the county public records website and cited the incident #.
4. Public records responded by citing the law explaining the info they’re legally allowed to release - which is: patient’s name & age; time, date & address of incident, and this (R): |
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I used a burner account. I did not have to provide any personal info whatsoever, nor fill out any forms. That's misinformation from folks who don’t know how to research or who make shit up because they can't be bothered.
We could debate the ethics on what should or should not be public info. But this being the only hard evidence to support any part of Anjali’s story, my purpose was to verify what she had already helped James A Conrad obtain (which he could not fully tell me at the time, as it identified "Wayne and Trisha"). We went about it in different ways and got slightly different info. |
Information obtained from two sources: CONFIRE and county public records (Sheriff)
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My interpretation of the responses is:
4:20 - High-as-a-kite Anjali contacts daughter after coming back inside Wayne's house and yelling: "What the fuck? I'm in here again?"
4.27 - Because Anjali is high as a kite and making no sense, her concerned daughter and calls 911 for a wellness check, giving 4:20 as the "time of the incident".
4.46 - Sheriff has arrived, and calls for ambulance (from James A Conrad).
4:55 - Ambulance arrives.
5:14 - Ambulance leaves.
This means Anjali did not spend 6 hours (3PM-9PM, she claims) in a tunnel communing with aliens.
Her memories of the day are confused.
4:20 - High-as-a-kite Anjali contacts daughter after coming back inside Wayne's house and yelling: "What the fuck? I'm in here again?"
4.27 - Because Anjali is high as a kite and making no sense, her concerned daughter and calls 911 for a wellness check, giving 4:20 as the "time of the incident".
4.46 - Sheriff has arrived, and calls for ambulance (from James A Conrad).
4:55 - Ambulance arrives.
5:14 - Ambulance leaves.
This means Anjali did not spend 6 hours (3PM-9PM, she claims) in a tunnel communing with aliens.
Her memories of the day are confused.
The Interested Party (Sep 20, 2022)
One way Anjali attempted to gaslight the couple with whom she took highly potent THC but now claims to be the only person on the planet who is entirely unaffected by it, was by telling them Bigelow Aerospace was straight-up "the interested party" in purchasing their land.
The bad news is: yeah, Wayne never dug a tunnel, doesn't know how to dig tunnels like that, and could not have afforded it anyway.
The good news is: Anjali appears to be making plans to tunnel in herself from the other side.
We live in exciting times.
BTW Anjali actually told them, in addition to "the" interested party, that there were "interested parties [plural] who would like to purchase your property." She was 100% lying in order to manipulate them into letting her back on the property to look for the tunnel.
Goes without saying that the asking price for an actual tunnel housing an ET base full of real live aliens (incl. lavender mantis, greys, Supreme Whites, and one membranous sac) capable of removing your consciousness and teleporting hither and thither is rather more than $50mil.
There were never any "interested parties". From the text messages Anjali released in March - this was sent to them during her freak-out over the couple coming forward to tell me their version of events:
The good news is: Anjali appears to be making plans to tunnel in herself from the other side.
We live in exciting times.
BTW Anjali actually told them, in addition to "the" interested party, that there were "interested parties [plural] who would like to purchase your property." She was 100% lying in order to manipulate them into letting her back on the property to look for the tunnel.
Goes without saying that the asking price for an actual tunnel housing an ET base full of real live aliens (incl. lavender mantis, greys, Supreme Whites, and one membranous sac) capable of removing your consciousness and teleporting hither and thither is rather more than $50mil.
There were never any "interested parties". From the text messages Anjali released in March - this was sent to them during her freak-out over the couple coming forward to tell me their version of events:
Coda: Max's response when I tweeted the above as a thread:
Mountain Man (Sep 21, 2022)
Now this story has died down and nobody is paying much attention to her love n' light feed, Anjali seems to feel free to spin history.
When I say spin, I mean lie.
Aside from the lies in the "bad news" I already covered, there's a lie in the "good news" too:
When I say spin, I mean lie.
Aside from the lies in the "bad news" I already covered, there's a lie in the "good news" too:
Anjali always said Wayne told her he owned the entire mountain. As you can see, she’s still saying it.
But if she thought he owned the entire mountain, why did she ask them last August if they owned another parcel on the mountain?
But if she thought he owned the entire mountain, why did she ask them last August if they owned another parcel on the mountain?
Text message to property owner from Anjali, Aug 19, 2021
There are many parcels on the mountain. Anj asked after a non-existent address (Google maps does not have the correct addresses for their neighborhood) so they assumed she was referring to the one on the left, whereas she meant the one on the right where she placed her flag (tunnel entrance).
Clearly she never thought he owned the whole mountain.
Anjali says she immediately forgot her experience, then re-remembered & forgot it many times since. It's logically impossible for her to know her memories are accurate.
Plus there's the potent THC thing.
Yet she is *convinced* she remembers correctly. In this case, logically, she appears to be lying about what Wayne told her.
Thread correcting the lie in the first part of her tweet.
Note the flag is up a mountain that Anjali definitely did not climb. She later admitted she guessed the spot by looking at a satellite map. Her 2nd flag was on a random shed.
The "shed with beams" that in her drug-addled haze became the tunnel entrance was somewhere else again.
Rather than admit to a drug-addled haze that distorted her memories, leading to these lies now to cover up, Anjali has speculated about alternative dimensions and timelines to explain why Wayne can't find a tunnel on his land - even that perhaps he's "not the same Wayne".
Narcissism involves an inability to question one's own awesomeness. This is someone who's absolutely certain she's not mistaken, regardless of the evidence in her own words. She lies to fill the plot holes and hurt an unwell man who tried to accommodate her as far as he could.
Anjali says she immediately forgot her experience, then re-remembered & forgot it many times since. It's logically impossible for her to know her memories are accurate.
Plus there's the potent THC thing.
Yet she is *convinced* she remembers correctly. In this case, logically, she appears to be lying about what Wayne told her.
Thread correcting the lie in the first part of her tweet.
Note the flag is up a mountain that Anjali definitely did not climb. She later admitted she guessed the spot by looking at a satellite map. Her 2nd flag was on a random shed.
The "shed with beams" that in her drug-addled haze became the tunnel entrance was somewhere else again.
Rather than admit to a drug-addled haze that distorted her memories, leading to these lies now to cover up, Anjali has speculated about alternative dimensions and timelines to explain why Wayne can't find a tunnel on his land - even that perhaps he's "not the same Wayne".
Narcissism involves an inability to question one's own awesomeness. This is someone who's absolutely certain she's not mistaken, regardless of the evidence in her own words. She lies to fill the plot holes and hurt an unwell man who tried to accommodate her as far as he could.
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Meanwhile this enabler/fool thought a millionaire developer (wrongWayne) was happy to wreck his reputation by taking $1000 to lie on camera (to Ryan Gordon) about knowing some random woman on #ufotwitter.
It's never too late to escape the rabbit hole! Put down the pipe. My DMs are open. |
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Lavvy out of luck (Sep 24, 2022)
For 8 months Anjali denied all drug use associated with her experience, specifically that she did not take psychedelics or DMT. Then she downplayed her drug use when it came out: she'd taken "medical cannabis resin", she insisted, giving the impression it was weed with medicinal benefits that doesn't get you high. In fact she took Rick Simpson Oil, which has extremely high THC content. It gets you HIGH.
"Does that chick remember how fucked up she was?"
eyewitness to Anjali's fucked-up status
I found this old Reddit post from 7 months before Anjali came out on Reddit (which she deleted due to the abovementioned controversy). The context is her belief that one can meet entities on drugs, but that daily meditation is better:
Anjali lists the times she's met entities:
Notice what she doesn't list or even allude to?
Anjali has said she forgot and remembered her experience many times, and didn't find her written account until Nov 2021. Are we to conclude that in Aug 2020, when she wrote that post, that she did not remember meeting Lavvy while (allegedly) sober, not comatose, and not meditating?
In other words, she did not know in Aug 2020 about her experiences in 2017-2018 that she would write about in Mar 2021. She must have "remembered" the whole Lavvy thing only a few months before she wrote about it on Reddit.
This page chronicles (on a timeline - yay!) not only how she framed her cannabis use, but what she's said she forgot and (re)remembered over time.
- on drugs
- during NDEs
- during comas
- during meditation.
Notice what she doesn't list or even allude to?
- meeting a holo-entity while watching Netflix in Dec '17 and at a firepit in Jan '18
- meeting physical entities in a mountain in Jan '18
Anjali has said she forgot and remembered her experience many times, and didn't find her written account until Nov 2021. Are we to conclude that in Aug 2020, when she wrote that post, that she did not remember meeting Lavvy while (allegedly) sober, not comatose, and not meditating?
In other words, she did not know in Aug 2020 about her experiences in 2017-2018 that she would write about in Mar 2021. She must have "remembered" the whole Lavvy thing only a few months before she wrote about it on Reddit.
This page chronicles (on a timeline - yay!) not only how she framed her cannabis use, but what she's said she forgot and (re)remembered over time.
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Here's one that makes no sense. She wrote down what happened the afternoon after the experience... but also, she'd already forgotten the experience when she woke up the morning after.
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Anjali has repeatedly claimed to be transparent and honest. Maybe she thinks she has been.
But the evidence shows her memories of her experience are extremely messed up. She refuses to acknowledge this, not even to the couple she gaslit and manipulated.
She simply moved on.
But the evidence shows her memories of her experience are extremely messed up. She refuses to acknowledge this, not even to the couple she gaslit and manipulated.
She simply moved on.
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Day before the press conference, right after I heard about her in fact, I predicted no expedition because like others I could see what was going on even without all the details that came out later.
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Anjali caused genuine pain to an innocent couple and instilled vain hope in many others. All because she got stoned.
It got personal when she lied about me, beating her chest about suing for things I never said.
To those who still have faith in her: Enjoy your apocalypse.
It got personal when she lied about me, beating her chest about suing for things I never said.
To those who still have faith in her: Enjoy your apocalypse.
Imagine (Oct 12, 2022)
This relates to the young man I named "Stu" in other threads. I've had a few lengthy DM conversations with him.
Imagine that among your flock is one young man who questions everything and seeks the truth.
So impressive is this man, you enlist him on your Great Expedition to meet your aliens, bring Disclosure, and save humanity from 3rd Denny hell…
This young man learns where your aliens might be. In the search for truth, he bugs the landowners - who then ask you if you know him.
Like Peter the Apostle, you deny him: Yes you know him, "though how personally... is up for debate."
This young man swears he'll move on if you fail to produce aliens.
Imagine you do fail, but by now he's so devoted that he'll give you endless chances.
He visits you.
Sleeps in your home.
Eats at your table.
Defends you tooth and nail to the naysayers.
Now imagine you have a problem: A pesky skeptic has put your output online and it makes you look deluded.
Imagine how you can use this young man to get what you want. You deceive him with curated messages. You tell him the skeptic is the ONLY reason you can't being Disclosure.
He is desperate to leave you with NO MORE excuses for failing to bring evidence of aliens. He needs to remove this excuse. So, he tells the skeptic, because YOU told HIM, that the reason this fell apart is because the landowner is upset the skeptic said he assaulted you.
He begs the skeptic to delete the accusation. Imagine how the skeptic could do that when they never said such a thing, and in fact said the opposite. Repeatedly.
Imagine hoodwinking the young man into thinking a lie is the truth. Driving him to make an impossible demand.
Imagine the young man asks you for a link proving the skeptic said this awful thing that ended Disclosure. You tell him uhhh it was deleted.
Imagine the skeptic sends the young man proof they said the opposite to what they're accused of saying. Imagine his cognitive dissonance.
Imagine telling this young man that you've started legal action against the skeptic.
After everything you've done, all the lies you've told him, imagine then scolding him for "grossly overstepping his boundaries" in attempting to negotiate on your behalf.
Are you done fucking with him yet?
Imagine the landowners step up and describe a different reality. Imagine the young man dares to question you... so you dump him.
Is he starting to see you for who you really are? Someone who used him?
You lied about someone making assault allegations in order to manipulate him into a state of desperation. He thought he was helping bring the world's greatest Disclosure, but all he was doing was unwittingly carry out your personal vendetta.
Imagine you refuse to accept your role in fucking with his mind and betraying his trust.
What kind of person are you?
Imagine that among your flock is one young man who questions everything and seeks the truth.
So impressive is this man, you enlist him on your Great Expedition to meet your aliens, bring Disclosure, and save humanity from 3rd Denny hell…
This young man learns where your aliens might be. In the search for truth, he bugs the landowners - who then ask you if you know him.
Like Peter the Apostle, you deny him: Yes you know him, "though how personally... is up for debate."
This young man swears he'll move on if you fail to produce aliens.
Imagine you do fail, but by now he's so devoted that he'll give you endless chances.
He visits you.
Sleeps in your home.
Eats at your table.
Defends you tooth and nail to the naysayers.
Now imagine you have a problem: A pesky skeptic has put your output online and it makes you look deluded.
Imagine how you can use this young man to get what you want. You deceive him with curated messages. You tell him the skeptic is the ONLY reason you can't being Disclosure.
He is desperate to leave you with NO MORE excuses for failing to bring evidence of aliens. He needs to remove this excuse. So, he tells the skeptic, because YOU told HIM, that the reason this fell apart is because the landowner is upset the skeptic said he assaulted you.
He begs the skeptic to delete the accusation. Imagine how the skeptic could do that when they never said such a thing, and in fact said the opposite. Repeatedly.
Imagine hoodwinking the young man into thinking a lie is the truth. Driving him to make an impossible demand.
Imagine the young man asks you for a link proving the skeptic said this awful thing that ended Disclosure. You tell him uhhh it was deleted.
Imagine the skeptic sends the young man proof they said the opposite to what they're accused of saying. Imagine his cognitive dissonance.
Imagine telling this young man that you've started legal action against the skeptic.
After everything you've done, all the lies you've told him, imagine then scolding him for "grossly overstepping his boundaries" in attempting to negotiate on your behalf.
Are you done fucking with him yet?
Imagine the landowners step up and describe a different reality. Imagine the young man dares to question you... so you dump him.
Is he starting to see you for who you really are? Someone who used him?
You lied about someone making assault allegations in order to manipulate him into a state of desperation. He thought he was helping bring the world's greatest Disclosure, but all he was doing was unwittingly carry out your personal vendetta.
Imagine you refuse to accept your role in fucking with his mind and betraying his trust.
What kind of person are you?
Truths (Nov 4, 2022)
Anj is promoting her Gaia TV interviews. If truth resonates with you (clearly it does not with her) and if you are open to all avenues, questions, and ideas, you'll want to know the following...
Anjali said she had "medical cannabis" that day. She took Rick Simpson oil which has a very high THC content. Three witnesses say she was HIGH, FUCKED UP, NOT SOBER.
She says she forgot her tunnel experience the very next day, then remembered, forgot, remembered many times since.
Anjali said she was in the alien base for 6 hours between 3-9PM. Yet she spoke to her daughter at 4:20PM who thought she was so FUCKED UP that she sent an ambulance for a wellness check. Ambo came~5PM.
Anj has absolute faith that her memories are accurate.
She says she forgot her tunnel experience the very next day, then remembered, forgot, remembered many times since.
Anjali said she was in the alien base for 6 hours between 3-9PM. Yet she spoke to her daughter at 4:20PM who thought she was so FUCKED UP that she sent an ambulance for a wellness check. Ambo came~5PM.
Anj has absolute faith that her memories are accurate.
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Anjali was shown around the property including this patio covered in shade netting with a tiny alcove under the floor. She remembers it as a shed with beams going into the mountainside & covered in camo netting, hiding the tunnel entrance.
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Anjali came inside after viewing the property (as a group, then alone with the owner for 5-10 minutes within sight of his wife in the house) and yelled: "What the fuck! I’m in here again?"
Anj remembers this as being teleported from the alien base.
Because she was FUCKED UP.
Anjali refuses to address the fact that the land owner does not know how to dig a 200-yard tunnel or use explosives, and does not have the equipment or money to dig it and cart away tons of rubble. He didn't dig a tunnel. There is no tunnel.
Now Richard Doty says DIA sent agents (pretending to be reporters) to interview Anj and were "primarily interested" in this man she keeps dragging into her story because she refuses to accept he did not take her to meet aliens in a non-existent tunnel.
(BTW, she was high.)
The land owners told me nobody has investigated - although Anj dragging them into her story made them nervous about lunatics showing up looking for aliens. (DIA may of course be interested in whether their former intel agent has gone bananas and is spilling secrets.)
Anjali has zero credibility and zero integrity at this point. She caused that couple immense stress in the middle of their medical crisis.
All the evidence points to her experience being a product of her imagination based on faulty memories because SHE WAS FUCKED UP.
Those who believe in Anjali and her loving apocalyptic message couldn't care less about the havoc she wreaked, about her failure to deliver anything, or about the evidence that proves she's both deluded and lying. You are all pathetic.
Anjali is that person who obfuscates and lies until forced to come clean:
Anj remembers this as being teleported from the alien base.
Because she was FUCKED UP.
Anjali refuses to address the fact that the land owner does not know how to dig a 200-yard tunnel or use explosives, and does not have the equipment or money to dig it and cart away tons of rubble. He didn't dig a tunnel. There is no tunnel.
Now Richard Doty says DIA sent agents (pretending to be reporters) to interview Anj and were "primarily interested" in this man she keeps dragging into her story because she refuses to accept he did not take her to meet aliens in a non-existent tunnel.
(BTW, she was high.)
The land owners told me nobody has investigated - although Anj dragging them into her story made them nervous about lunatics showing up looking for aliens. (DIA may of course be interested in whether their former intel agent has gone bananas and is spilling secrets.)
Anjali has zero credibility and zero integrity at this point. She caused that couple immense stress in the middle of their medical crisis.
All the evidence points to her experience being a product of her imagination based on faulty memories because SHE WAS FUCKED UP.
Those who believe in Anjali and her loving apocalyptic message couldn't care less about the havoc she wreaked, about her failure to deliver anything, or about the evidence that proves she's both deluded and lying. You are all pathetic.
Anjali is that person who obfuscates and lies until forced to come clean:
- Nov 2: "Expedition is off but I'm looking for another way in!"
- Owner writes angrily that maybe he'll do interviews of his own.
- Nov 4: Anj freaks out he's going to mention drugs, so pre-empts him.
The kind of person who admits the truth only when forced to, all the while claiming to be completely honest and transparent... is the kind of person who is hiding a shitload of other things from you.
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Rest assured, engaging with skeptics is no longer important to her. She wants to me me me endlessly retell the same nonsensical I'M SO IMPORTANT THE GOVERNMENT WAS WATCHING BEHIND DARK WINDOWS story to an audience who lap it up, not answer questions about the actual evidence.
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Worshipping delusion (Nov 6, 2022)
Being in a cult has similarities to being in an abusive relationship with a narcissist. Lovebombing, power imbalance, and despite the abuse you are "in love" with the cult/guru/partner, so you stay. Getting out requires a moral violation straw that breaks the camel's back. This was better expressed by Chris Shelton who I've been watching re. Scientology and similar relationships. No guru thinks they're starting a cult. No abusive partner thinks they're being (unjustifiably) abusive.
If you think (as in a cult like Scientology) you're saving or helping or warning humanity, ANY behavior can be rationalized. It's not abusive if you absolutely believe you're helping.
There are so many aspects of ufology that line up with this. Deception and manipulation and character-revealing transgressions of ufo gurus are overlooked for the greater cause.
Reality itself has been redefined.
Delusion is worshipped.
Minds are being abused.
I've tried to understand this mentality - both gurus and followers. Much has been said by many but I'm most familiar with Anjali whose self-evident lies and manipulations could fill a book. Her narcissism makes her gloriously unaware of the damage she's causing. And her followers shrug and somehow make themselves forget. She completely trusts her "beings", yet they've never been right. They've led her to deceive, manipulate, obfuscate, and commit harm, then finally they made a fool of her. So why would you trust anything she says?
The ONLY positive thing to come out of her story was attention for herself. Reddit to Gaia TV in under 2 years. Yay Anjali. While middle-aged men fawn over her, don't expect anything useful from her or her beings. She STILL hasn't even organized a website.
Remember that time she pretended the beings told her Alien Addict's number after Max handed her a phone that she was actively scrolling thru and reading to find the answer? How did her entire "career" not end right there?
If you think (as in a cult like Scientology) you're saving or helping or warning humanity, ANY behavior can be rationalized. It's not abusive if you absolutely believe you're helping.
There are so many aspects of ufology that line up with this. Deception and manipulation and character-revealing transgressions of ufo gurus are overlooked for the greater cause.
Reality itself has been redefined.
Delusion is worshipped.
Minds are being abused.
I've tried to understand this mentality - both gurus and followers. Much has been said by many but I'm most familiar with Anjali whose self-evident lies and manipulations could fill a book. Her narcissism makes her gloriously unaware of the damage she's causing. And her followers shrug and somehow make themselves forget. She completely trusts her "beings", yet they've never been right. They've led her to deceive, manipulate, obfuscate, and commit harm, then finally they made a fool of her. So why would you trust anything she says?
The ONLY positive thing to come out of her story was attention for herself. Reddit to Gaia TV in under 2 years. Yay Anjali. While middle-aged men fawn over her, don't expect anything useful from her or her beings. She STILL hasn't even organized a website.
Remember that time she pretended the beings told her Alien Addict's number after Max handed her a phone that she was actively scrolling thru and reading to find the answer? How did her entire "career" not end right there?
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With her ever-careful wording she denied cheating, after the show, despite it being bleedin' obvious to many. Oh she wasn't on her phone? That still leaves Max's phone or someone's tablet.
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That time (Nov 21, 2022)
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That time a researcher (totally non-government) who knew Bryan's real identity (cuz she told him) told Anj that Bryan was following her, so she told Bryan he'd CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF THE GOV'MINT.
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That time Anj told Bryan's wife she'd been sent a screenshot of him following her account, as if he'd been hunted down by the GOV'MINT, when she was the one who gave the screenshotter Bryan's address, which enabled the screenshotter to find his Twitter account. #transparency
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That time Anj told them Whitley Strieber was going to broker a multi-million-dollar deal with Bigelow for their property and then Strieber is like nope that never happened.
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That time Anj tweeted wrong info about Wayne, then told the couple it had "completely worked" to throw people off, all to make herself look clever... ...when in fact it happened totally the other way around: she'd already been told about Wayne#1 and matched her tweets to his bio.
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That time Anjali posted the notes she claims she made the afternoon of Jan 22, 2018, after visiting aliens in a tunnel the day before...
...and a few weeks later says she'd paced all that night then woke up the next morning having forgotten everything. #makeitmakesense |
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That time Anj said Steven Cambian had "broken away" from associating with me (even though I was talking to him frequently) and did W&T want to join her lawsuit? And then a week later I ask Steven if he wants "Wayne" on his show and Steven says Hell yes (and we talk some more).
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Redacted text filled in from copies of these messages provided by recipient
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That time Anj blamed "detractors", and eventually me, for suggesting she'd been assaulted when ALL ALONG IT WAS HER DAUGHTER AND FRIEND WHO SUGGESTED IT and she was happy to report on it - until she needed a fake reason to get people on board her lawsuit.
Excerpt from Anjali's phone call with the landowners where she talks about meeting aliens on their land and says her daughter called an ambulance thinking she'd been assaulted (Aug 16, 2021).
Anjali on ET Evidence podcast (April 7, 2021)
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Anjali on Jimmy Church Fade To Black (Aug 25, 2021)
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Anjali on Aliengirl111, blaming attackers and trollers for a notion that she initiated (Nov 2, 2021). Here she claims the comments were a reason for the landowners refusing her permission for the expedition, but there is no evidence that this was a reason.
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Anjali's texts to the landowners blaming me (Charlie Wiser) for comments made by herself and others (Feb 22 & 27, 2022). The affidavit she mentions is in relation to her stated intent to sue me and her desire to have the landowners join the lawsuit.
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I can keep going forever. There's so many of these.
That time Anjali listened to this gem with a straight face and then... just let it drop. Still can't believe this happened in my timeline. #ryanjali #peasinapod #GoMax! |
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That time Anj told Strieber: Dec 21 is Teapot Expedition date! but her pick-a-pal Twitter poll wasn't even done, giving the winner <2 months warning to skip Xmas & travel cross-country/planet in the middle of a pandemic...
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That time Anj created a Pinterest where, from March 2021 (if not earlier), she was calling herself a seer, mystic, and medium.
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That time a guy in Anj's inner circle was under the impression the owners had given permission... when in reality they didn't know about the expedition on Aug 6 and "about died laughing" when she told them about hybees in their mountain... and didn't write back for a week.
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Lies (Nov 26, 2022)
If I've been a bit salty lately re. Anjali and her current/former sycophants, there are 3 abiding reasons:
Those who came to her story late, attracted to her apocalyptic message, have no idea about the shit she pulled.
- Potential suicide cult that's drawing vulnerable followers
- Harmed innocent couple while tweeting about compassion. Anj told the couple NOT to read Twitter, NOT to talk to me, ONLY talk to her - "the person who had the experience" that they'd been trying to tell her did not happen (because she was HIGH AF).
- Legal threat against me filled with lies. Anj has still not admitted to the lies she told them - and while her posturing doesn't begin to compare to how she's treated the couple or the dangers to her followers, her lies are obviously a personal bugbear.
Those who came to her story late, attracted to her apocalyptic message, have no idea about the shit she pulled.
Anjali's texts to the couple, giving reasons for her libel lawsuit and asking them to join. My comments added.
In summary: Anj beat her chest about a libel lawsuit where every claim she made about what I'd said was untrue, except that I thought she'd taken drugs - which was true. This lawsuit would be laughable & frivolous - except that she used these lies to manipulate the couple into joining it.
Because the couple had been following my tweets for months, they knew it wasn't true. They saw through her. So they contacted me instead, to tell their side of the story (which is: ANJALI WAS HIGH).
What kind of person makes up a bunch of nonsense about what someone said, then uses it to try and manipulate someone else into joining a libel lawsuit? What kind of person never admits to their "mistake"?
THIS IS JUST THE WAY ANJALI IS.
Take care with your trust.
Because the couple had been following my tweets for months, they knew it wasn't true. They saw through her. So they contacted me instead, to tell their side of the story (which is: ANJALI WAS HIGH).
What kind of person makes up a bunch of nonsense about what someone said, then uses it to try and manipulate someone else into joining a libel lawsuit? What kind of person never admits to their "mistake"?
THIS IS JUST THE WAY ANJALI IS.
Take care with your trust.
Gaia grift (Dec 15, 2022)
Back when she was still Añjali, Anjali appeared in the final part of her Gaia TV interview with Tactical Tim, Dumb Doty, and the underground lab guy spilling state secrets.
A THREAD about incurious people & dumb takes.
If you were hoping Anj would finally talk about her presser and failed expedition THAT THE BEINGS TOLD HER COULD NOT FAIL… Nope. This was four grown people sharing their personal delusions about ET because they think that’s an insightful activity that adults do.
Doty has “heard” that interstellar spacecraft made with ET tech are hidden on an island in the Pacific. It’s true because Ben from Skunk Works said he couldn’t talk about it. Eisenhower met ET in the Mojave in 1954. It’s true because “it’s all over the internet”.
Tactical Tim confidently asserts that when the travel embargo is lifted, the govt will send humans to other planets inhabited by humanoids. Not for public consumption! The only way we’ll learn about it is when Tactical Tim tells us on pay-per-view.
Doty says the Roswell alien was our first ET contact. Anj says ET has been consciously communicating with us since the dawn of humanity. Since she knows she’s right, that makes Doty extremely mistaken. In an evidence-free environment, you can never say someone else is wrong.
Anj goes into detail about how conscious communication is hard to understand. (A convenient excuse for contradictions and pivots.) Yet she quotes her beings constantly. Human words. Why don’t they just get a blue check Twitter account? Because it would make her superfluous?
A THREAD about incurious people & dumb takes.
If you were hoping Anj would finally talk about her presser and failed expedition THAT THE BEINGS TOLD HER COULD NOT FAIL… Nope. This was four grown people sharing their personal delusions about ET because they think that’s an insightful activity that adults do.
Doty has “heard” that interstellar spacecraft made with ET tech are hidden on an island in the Pacific. It’s true because Ben from Skunk Works said he couldn’t talk about it. Eisenhower met ET in the Mojave in 1954. It’s true because “it’s all over the internet”.
Tactical Tim confidently asserts that when the travel embargo is lifted, the govt will send humans to other planets inhabited by humanoids. Not for public consumption! The only way we’ll learn about it is when Tactical Tim tells us on pay-per-view.
Doty says the Roswell alien was our first ET contact. Anj says ET has been consciously communicating with us since the dawn of humanity. Since she knows she’s right, that makes Doty extremely mistaken. In an evidence-free environment, you can never say someone else is wrong.
Anj goes into detail about how conscious communication is hard to understand. (A convenient excuse for contradictions and pivots.) Yet she quotes her beings constantly. Human words. Why don’t they just get a blue check Twitter account? Because it would make her superfluous?
Anj struggles to understand the downloads let alone verbalize them, and doesn't know if she's mistranslating: “I bet I don’t get it right a lot, a lot more than I probably know.” ET had eons to figure out language but chooses as their mouthpiece a woman who can't understand them.
I need to reiterate this point: Anj is passing along vital information, warnings, and predictions from the beings but DOESN'T KNOW IF OR WHEN SHE'S MISTRANSLATING THEM. Which makes this entire endeavor fucking useless.
Doty says: In the Area 51 top secret manual that somehow he's allowed to reveal, all 5 ET species visiting Earth require water to live. This SURPRISED him. Doty says: “intelligent civilization” only started 2000 years ago. People this ignorant should not get paid for talking.
Anj says we’re all on a learning path. I suggest Doty’s learning path include biology and history classes.
Anj finishes with a story she told more fully on Reddit 3 years ago about Nelson dying in the 1980s. Because she remembers his death “viscerally” and because a cognitive neuroscience class is not on her learning path, she thinks this means she jumped to an alt-timeline.
Yes, it really was that dumb.
I need to reiterate this point: Anj is passing along vital information, warnings, and predictions from the beings but DOESN'T KNOW IF OR WHEN SHE'S MISTRANSLATING THEM. Which makes this entire endeavor fucking useless.
Doty says: In the Area 51 top secret manual that somehow he's allowed to reveal, all 5 ET species visiting Earth require water to live. This SURPRISED him. Doty says: “intelligent civilization” only started 2000 years ago. People this ignorant should not get paid for talking.
Anj says we’re all on a learning path. I suggest Doty’s learning path include biology and history classes.
Anj finishes with a story she told more fully on Reddit 3 years ago about Nelson dying in the 1980s. Because she remembers his death “viscerally” and because a cognitive neuroscience class is not on her learning path, she thinks this means she jumped to an alt-timeline.
Yes, it really was that dumb.
Prohibited? (Dec 16, 2022)
A reminder that Anjali announced her expedition BEFORE she was back in touch with the owners. The day before the press conference she TOLD them (not asked) that she was bringing a team to their land. When they realized the extent of that "team" they went silent for 4 weeks.
Also note yet more carefully wording (i.e. lies) - she implies here that they knew the expedition was in December. (She told Whitley Strieber Dec 21st.) She NEVER gave the land owners a date. Because they never gave permission for her Teapot expedition.
Also note yet more carefully wording (i.e. lies) - she implies here that they knew the expedition was in December. (She told Whitley Strieber Dec 21st.) She NEVER gave the land owners a date. Because they never gave permission for her Teapot expedition.
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Many in ufotwitter seem oblivious to these subtle manipulations while considering themselves intuitive or a good judge of character. Anjali's subtle manipulation here is that she wants you to think the owners canceled a planned expedition with only 2 months to go. All untrue.
She is playing the victim here, as if she was blindsided. The owners agreed at one point that she could return to the property but she insisted on bringing Maxipants. They did not want Max on their land.
She is playing the victim here, as if she was blindsided. The owners agreed at one point that she could return to the property but she insisted on bringing Maxipants. They did not want Max on their land.
Timewarp (Dec 21, 2022)
Since 2018, whenever Anjali retells her story at family gatherings about being in an alien base for 6 hours between 3PM and 9PM, why does her daughter never tell her: “But Mom, you called me at 4:20PM.” Honestly, this bugs me a lot.
Has her daughter tried to tell her, and Anjali dismissed it? She seemed surprised to learn the 911 call was 4.5hrs earlier than she remembered. Incurious as any believer, she finds the difference "fascinating" and posits... time travel.
Has her daughter tried to tell her, and Anjali dismissed it? She seemed surprised to learn the 911 call was 4.5hrs earlier than she remembered. Incurious as any believer, she finds the difference "fascinating" and posits... time travel.
Despite Anj's illustrious start last year, she has still not provided one shred of evidence for her story (which the other witnesses contradict), for conscious contact with ETs, or for anything she claims "govt folks" are telling her. Her story is indistinguishable from delusion.
Giving a platform to information that is indistinguishable from delusion has been redefined as "disclosure". Not knowing if something is true is bad enough. Not caring if it's true, or giving up because you've decided it's not possible to know what's true, is dangerous.
So, why does it bug me? It bugs me because it doesn't bug Anjali, and because it doesn't bug YOU if you're still listening to her. She's incapable of acknowledging a simple fact: that the drug she took warped her memories and sense of time.
I can theorize understandable reasons why Anjali's daughter plays along. Why are YOU playing along? Someone who invents an alt-timeline instead of admitting she's wrong about a simple fact... is delusional and/or a serious impediment to truth.
Giving a platform to information that is indistinguishable from delusion has been redefined as "disclosure". Not knowing if something is true is bad enough. Not caring if it's true, or giving up because you've decided it's not possible to know what's true, is dangerous.
So, why does it bug me? It bugs me because it doesn't bug Anjali, and because it doesn't bug YOU if you're still listening to her. She's incapable of acknowledging a simple fact: that the drug she took warped her memories and sense of time.
I can theorize understandable reasons why Anjali's daughter plays along. Why are YOU playing along? Someone who invents an alt-timeline instead of admitting she's wrong about a simple fact... is delusional and/or a serious impediment to truth.
To Do List (Dec 31, 2022)
Things Anjali said she’d do but didn’t:
1. announce Twitter poll winner
2. create expedition team
3. get permission for expedition from landowners
4. go on expedition
5. provide irrefutable evidence of ET in a mountain
6. start a meditation retreat
7. hold watch party
8. create a website
9. create a wiki
10. start a podcast
11. present pyramid diagram of ET areas of operation
12. get CCTV footage of paranormal activity in her home
13. finish Ryan Gordon
14. serve lawsuit
15. draw Lavvy’s surgery
16. do video interview with mom re. 1976 sighting
17. upload higher beings’ message for humanity about #WeAreOne delivered audibly starting Dec 19, 2022, and ongoing…
1. announce Twitter poll winner
2. create expedition team
3. get permission for expedition from landowners
4. go on expedition
5. provide irrefutable evidence of ET in a mountain
6. start a meditation retreat
7. hold watch party
8. create a website
9. create a wiki
10. start a podcast
11. present pyramid diagram of ET areas of operation
12. get CCTV footage of paranormal activity in her home
13. finish Ryan Gordon
14. serve lawsuit
15. draw Lavvy’s surgery
16. do video interview with mom re. 1976 sighting
17. upload higher beings’ message for humanity about #WeAreOne delivered audibly starting Dec 19, 2022, and ongoing…
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