As of November 2nd, Anjali's expedition to bring back irrefutable evidence of the existence of physical ETs inside a physical base inside Wayne's mountain is "postponed". On Aliengirl111's podcast, Anjali said that when she visited Wayne in California at the end of October he revoked all access to his property.
There are two ways of viewing this story. Either we take Anjali at her word - which leaves us puzzling over the inconsistencies (not to mention Wayne's improbable naivety) - or we assume she's not always truthful and transparent. Which approach gives us a more accurate interpretation of what's really going on? And what happens next?
Unless Wayne speaks up with the truth, we'll never know what really happened that day in January 2018 when he met Angelia Schultz in a coffeeshop. Maybe for his own amusement he tricked her into believing he met aliens on top of his mountain and was compelled to dig a tunnel to their base. Maybe she misunderstood or misremembered his jokes about aliens. Maybe she had an experience on drugs that she later wrongly interpreted as physical aliens in a physical tunnel.
Given her manner and conviction, my impression was that Anjali believed her story when she first told it in March. But even then, things didn't add up:
By the end of July they had reconnected, which Anjali said at the time was due to a death, but on the Aliengirl111 podcast she described how she was "panic-contacting Wayne and Trisha because I [felt] nearly compelled to announce a formation of an expedition team to return to the base." Whatever compulsion she felt, the fact is this recount obscures the fact that she announced the expedition before she had heard from the property owners.
Anjali (and her partner Max) said they were on board, involved, excited, and ready:
"I've also found it absolutely fascinating how onboard Wayne and Trisha truly are." [Max on Reddit, Aug 17, 2021]
"he’s very much involved in this process... he's gonna be standing right up front beside me. So we're very excited about this whole process. They’re ready. They are ready when the beings are ready and when the team is ready." [Anjali on Jimmy Church, Aug 25, 2021]
Two months later we're told Wayne decided he would not allow anyone onto his property because he saw the negative attention another man was getting for either being mistaken for Wayne or pretending to be Wayne. He and Trisha didn't want "their private lives being threatened by... freaks" - despite being absolutely fine with their privacy being destroyed forever once evidence of Wayne's historic discovery was brought forth. Contradicting everything she'd said before about Wayne and Trisha's readiness, Anjali said the situation was "always so fragile", and that they were "very hesitant about anyone wanting on their property in the first place". [Anjali on Aliengirl111, Nov 2, 2021]
The next day she discarded the previous explanation and tweeted that Wayne revoked permission because of his health, which the day before she'd mentioned only as an aside: "by the way, Wayne, his cancer has worsened..."
Being sick or publicity-shy aren't plausible reasons to doom humanity to exile in Orion. Wayne's behavior, by Anjali's account, has been inexplicable. But that is what we're supposed to believe.
Anjali could say whatever she wanted about Wayne until the day she was told he'd been identified. It's easy to make up stuff about an anonymous person. Once he becomes real, you have to answer to him. And Wayne wants "nothing to do with it".
It's pretty clear he never wanted anything to do with it.
According to two people who told me personally they'd called Wayne, he gets very angry when people ask him about aliens. If he's a reasonable man, he knows there are no aliens in his mountain eager to softly disclose themselves. If there were, they wouldn't be stopped by one man changing his mind due to privacy or health or anything else. Wayne was never going to retain his privacy; and he could avoid the stress of the expedition by taking a vacation that weekend.
Did he tell Anjali, or did he feed her fantasy? I can only hope he did tell her the truth - even if not in 2018, surely in 2021 when he discovered she'd placed him in a co-starring role.
Either she didn't believe him, or she did and has been lying ever since to save face.
So, there are no reasons for Wayne "revoking" permission since he'd never granted it. He never expected or wanted people on his land looking for non-existent tunnels or thinking he believes in aliens. He has angrily denied the aliens story (while using Anjali's real name, proving he knows her) and he wants this to go away.
But Anjali won't go away: "You can’t invite a former Pentagon Defense Intelligence agent to your home and take them to meet extraterrestrials in a tunnel, and then expect they’re going to go away. That’s not going to happen." [Anjali on Aliengirl111, Nov 2, 2021]
Anjali has not devoted every waking hour, as she claims, to organizing an expedition. She knew the expedition would never happen. She did not assemble a team. She can't even talk intelligently about the "equipment to measure" that would be taken into the tunnel. This means she always planned to cancel the expedition (or perhaps invent a report after declaring it had taken place secretly). If Wayne had remained anonymous, she could have told us anything she liked about him, his aliens, and her expedition.
Instead, she's doing damage control to appease him and hoodwink us. She avoids questions about her relationship with him (specifically, if he ever gave permission for access to his property). Her Nov 2 tweet where she says "My intentions are to press forward" with the expedition is not believable.
Anjali revealed this fresh twist on the message six days ago, in a series of coordinated tweets that put in doubt her assertion that higher beings were the source of the information. Other than to change her profile pic and answer a question about why she follows zero people, she has not returned to address the fear or ridicule left in her wake, and nor has she posted a more comprehensive explanation on Reddit or YouTube - either of which would be more appropriate platforms.
We have only five years to learn how to upload information-rich metadata into each other's brains - a skill not one human on the planet has ever mastered. Soft disclosure was supposed to result in the beings helping us prepare for this. For some reason, soft disclosure can only take place in Wayne's mountain, and he's not interested.
Don't be surprised if Anjali stops talking about the expedition. Obviously it can never happen.
Don't be surprised if Anjali opens a meditation center in her sacred geometry home, for the purpose of teaching conscious communication with higher beings. She'll never mention conscious communication between humans again.
Anjali keeps saying that fear prevents transcendence. Of course the Earth is not going to be wiped clean by the Sun in 2027, so there's nothing to fear there. Judging from Twitter, however, plenty of people do believe something like this will happen around that time. Anjali has a ready-made audience. Don't be surprised to see her feeding their fears and gathering a flock. When disclosure, transcendence, and the apocalypse fail to eventuate these are the ones who'll believe whatever new excuse she gives and dig themselves in ever deeper.
Anjali was once an earnest experiencer with poor perception, no curiosity, delusions of grandeur, and an inflated sense of her own infallibility. As the lies and evasions pile up, the word fraud seems more applicable.
My perspective on the developments in the Anjali story this past week (on Reddit).
I've updated a couple of transcripts on the site that previously were paraphrased, for both Anjali's press conference and her appearance on Jimmy Kicked Me Out Before I Came In Church's podcast.
Two interesting points came to light that I hadn't paid attention to before. According to Anjali:
I am not convinced (not even slightly) that Wayne has given explicit permission for Anjali to return to his property before the end of the year, where she believes he dug a tunnel to an alien base. The following is based on my recent tweetstorm about this concerning aspect of her story. Rather than address the permissions issue, she blocked me.
Does Anjali have Wayne’s explicit permission to bring a team of scientists and other experts with their “equipment to measure” onto his land in 2021 and enter his tunnel to bring back evidence from the Cave of Wonders?
Let’s back up a little. Did Wayne dig a tunnel through the mountain in his backyard? Apparently he told Anjali that he did, as unlikely as that seems, after seeing UFOs then meeting two aliens on his mountain. Read about his alleged feat here.
Was Wayne yanking her chain? Embellishing a more “spiritual” experience he had while meditating? We only know what Anjali tells us and she thinks not, since she has a fuzzy memory of meeting aliens, later clarified through hypnoregression.
What exactly is Anjali’s relationship with Wayne? Has she – to use her terminology – "overstated" his support? Like she overstated her drug use, and Max overspoke Wayne’s recovery from cancer?
Anjali met Wayne & the aliens in Jan 2018, spoke to him briefly the next day, “exchanged several texts” but never got together. Her conscious contact with the beings increased, which I expect she told Wayne about – and “the responses stopped coming.”
Jump ahead to March 2021 when Anjali comes out on Reddit because a peaches-n-cream light being told her it was time. She had not been in touch with Wayne for 2 years DESPITE TRYING. Why wouldn’t he take a call from the lady who kept texting him about talking to aliens?
July: Despite NO CONTACT in at least two years, and Wayne not returning her calls for 4 months, Anjali announces an expedition back to the tunnel because she trusts the beings won't lead her astray regarding matters of trespassing.
Aug 10: Anjali is back in touch with Wayne! Max is asked outright if they have his permission for the expedition – you’d think this is a yes/no question, wouldn’t you? But the evasive answers begin.
Aug 17: Press conference. Anjali again does not specify that Wayne is supportive of the expedition, only of the presser itself with a vague comment about his support “in this effort”. Max adds his own odd comment later the same day.
Aug 25: A very odd thing happens. Anjali posts that she AND Max are FaceTiming the soon-to-be world’s-most-famous couple Wayne & Trisha. Then 12 days later she edits the post to remove Max’s name. I can’t explain it. She overstated Max's videoconferencing appearances?
Although we found Wayne, confirmed by Anjali to be THE Wayne... ...in a phone call on Sep 8th he angrily denies knowledge of an alien base on his property. This is mere days after Anjali was FaceTiming Wayne (above). Is Wayne on board or not?
Next day, Anjali panic-tweets about Wayne’s ruthless armed guards. Six tweets, not one word about his knowledge of or permission for the forthcoming invasion of his property and worldwide exposure of himself due to having Lavvybeans in his mountain.
Sep 13: Steven Cambian asks Anjali that same direct yes/no question about whether Wayne is aware of Anjali’s expedition. We get the evasiveness we've come to know and love:
Sep 30: Anjali reiterates she trusts the beings’ guidance, with a carefully worded tweet that again fails to confirm she HAS Wayne’s permission, only that his permission would be needed. As usual, no response when I asked that pesky direct yes/no question…
Oct 1: Here comes the careful wording again. Anjali says the expedition won’t happen if permission is revoked – yet she has never confirmed permission was given. [As above, she did not explicitly confirm it during the presser, either.]
In conclusion we don't know if Anjali’s expedition has Wayne’s explicit approval. She could be transparent about it, but I kinda don’t trust her anymore. Now I kinda want actual evidence of his approval. All we have is his explicit DENIAL the base exists.
We have an unnamed team, no expedition date until it's over, Wayne's denial the alien base exists, and Anjali's evasiveness about whether she CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW has his permission. It's not making much sense to me.
On Sep 13, 2021, Anjali appeared on Steven Cambian's Truthseekers podcast, and god help me I've transcribed it here.
Prior to arranging the interview, Steven said he had learned who "Wayne" is - the guy with cancer who met aliens on his mountain, became obsessed with digging to their underground base, and took Anjali to meet them on Jan 21, 2018 - and so Stephen asked Anjali onto his show to talk about a few controversies surrounding her experience.
According to what Steven told me, Anjali said she hadn't thought anyone would try looking for "Wayne", let alone find him. Why would anyone want to look for the man who made the most important discovery in human history?
Well, an email acquaintance of mine, James A. Conrad, did look. James wrote to me in early September claiming to have found the only builder named Wayne in the vicinity of Anjali's last known address who also owns a mountain. To be honest, I thought at first there was no way this could be the Wayne. Surely Anjali would've assigned a pseudonym to this notoriously private excavator extraordinaire?
I filled James in on everything already known about Wayne and his wife "Trisha". I figured one of the fancy houses adjoining the mountain property must belong to him, assuming Anjali's description of that fateful day was basically true. Sure enough, James's property searches found Wayne's home as well as more mountain acres and land parcels in the nearby town owned by him. Wayne developed (and continues to develop) much of the town in the 2000s.
I found newspaper articles and photos relating to Wayne's history in the town, and confirmed his wife's details through (often inaccurate) directory websites, Ancestry.com, and Facebook which seemed to indicate Wayne had been ill. (There are many family members living in the town, several with similar names, so it was necessary to sort out all the relationships - especially because Wayne's age and wife's name did not match what Anjali had said.)
In retrospect, everything lined up nicely and it seems like a simple puzzle to solve. But tracking down the evidence to support this identification took a few days.
Still, it could all be a coincidence, right?
I passed along our information to Steven Cambian who had joked on Twitter about calling construction companies in the area to ask if they owned a mountain. Not a joke, actually - he really did it. He now went ahead and called Wayne, whose reaction convinced him this was the Wayne and that was the mountain housing an alien base. Anjali confirmed it when she and Steven talked pre-interview. To be clear, at no time did Steven intend to reveal Wayne's identity and neither do I.
Where to from here? I am 100% certain there is no alien base, and 99.99% certain there will be no expedition to visit it. I've summarized my reasoning in this Twitter thread, following Anjali's comments to Steven in the interview. I believe Anjali vastly overstated her relationship with Wayne, and misinterpreted or misunderstood Wayne's role regarding tunnels and aliens and teleportation. They lost touch soon after that evening spent at his house in 2018, and only reconnected after she had already announced the expedition back to the base in July 2021. I doubt Wayne had any idea what she'd been up to online since March when she first came out on Reddit with her story - a story that places Wayne in a co-starring role. In the Sep 13 interview with Steven, Anjali was evasive and said only: "Yes, I have been in contact with him. And that’s really all that I’m happy to say about Wayne, really. I would just prefer not to discuss that too much."
Hours after the press conference in August, her partner Max said Wayne and Trisha were "on board" with the expedition.
I highly doubt this.
Anjali told Steven that Wayne would call off the expedition if his identity was revealed. I suspect the truth is closer to this: Wayne knew nothing of the expedition and will not be hosting a team of scientists on his property (which Anjali panic-tweeted is protected by armed guards) in search of aliens to the bemusement of his neighbors and the detriment of his reputation as a businessman.
Anjali has said she doesn't think the beings would lead her astray in this regard - the disclosure is on their terms, she claims, and everything is proceeding as it should. Coming back to reality for a moment: this expedition has multiple built-in points of failure, and it's only a matter of time to see which one Anjali chooses.
I've added two new pages to the Anjali section of the website:
I've also added to the Transcripts page Anjali's original Reddit post from March that started us on this transcendence journey, just for completion so it's included in any search for keywords you do on the page.
I did it so you don't have to, unless you already did in which case I sympathize: I listened to all Añjali's interviews over the past few weeks, and transcribed them to keep my fingers busy during the loñññg pauses.
The complete transcripts are here - all on one page to make searching for keywords easier. So, for example, to discover everything you ever wanted to know about transcending, CTRL+F transcend. Good luck finding instructions on how to transcend, because Añjali's not so keen on telling you - even though it's super important that you do.
Also included are her press conference, thanks to a dedicated Redditor, and Añjali's sort of but not really channeling from the Three and the Four on the galactic council who brought a message of caution and encouragement about separating human wheat from chaff.
The screencaps on the page are a selection of significant Añjali moments:
On Twitter I've been writing some threads about the new sensation in the UFO world, the much flirted with by Jimmy Church and Roderick Martin and Alan Steinfeld elevated consciousness known as Añjali*.
If you know me, you know I don't believe aliens are visiting Earth - so I'm not too interested in how her silly story will damage serious UFO investigation. The suicide cult angle, on the other hand...
Anyway, I created this extensive timeline of her background for future reference as this thing heats up. Anjali has pinky-swear-promised that before the end of this year she and excavationer extraordinaire Wayne will lead an expedition team of crack scientists and journalists to the alien base in a mountain in the Mojave, and bring back indisputable evidence of the existence of higher beings living there. She calls it "soft disclosure" which makes me think this evidence isn't going to be anything to write home about.
Below is a list of my untranscended Tweet storms:
I'll be honest: I'd rather continue my sensory experiential learning while inhabiting my 3rd density biotechnology than transcend with the likes of Anjali, especially if that means I get a trip to Orion out of it. However, if you're more of a transcending type or perhaps want to join Anjali's team back to the tunnel to meet actual real live ETs, you can follow her exploits here or here.
Like Jimmy Church and Peter Robbins, Anjali blocked me on Twitter - but then accepted my (accidental) "connect" request on LinkedIn. Needless to say, I'm feeling a little insecure about our relationship at the moment.
*Gave up with the tilde thing after the first one, sorry. I only have a third density keyboard.